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[Politics] Eddie Izzard







Chicken Run

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If she couldn’t get elected in Brighton, it may be a waste of time
If she’s that desperate to be an MP she would have been better placed defecting to the Green Party as a candidate for the Pavilion Constituency, what’s not to like about a Trans Green MP for Brighton Pavilion
 






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Bit disappointed with him saying that, it's akin to calling Tony Bloom a racist for sacking Chris Hughton. If he was trying to be be a candidate for an old-school, Leave-voting, deprived, red wall working class constituency then, yes, I could image the fear that a trans person would lose votes might be an issue. Wrongly, obviously, but I can see some might take it into account - especially if they're trying to unseat a Tory.

But this is Brighton. I know we're not all woke vegan hipsters, but if anywhere would welcome a trans candidate it would be here. Blimey, we've voted in a Green MP for the last few elections so we're not afraid to be different.

EDIT: I may have got his pronouns wrong. Apologies. It's just that when I see 'Eddie' I think of him as male, and when I see 'Suzy' I think of him as female. Plus I've know him as male for so long it's hard to adjust/remember.
 
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timbha

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Bit disappointed with him saying that, it's akin to calling Tony Bloom a racist for sacking Chris Hughton. If he was trying to be be a candidate for an old-school, Leave-voting, deprived, red wall working class constituency then, yes, I could image the fear that a trans person would lose votes might be an issue. Wrongly, obviously, but I can see some might take it into account - especially if they're trying to unseat a Tory.

But this is Brighton. I know we're not all woke vegan hipsters, but if anywhere would welcome a trans candidate it would be here. Blimey, we've voted in a Green MP for the last few elections so we're not afraid to be different.
Some people just need something to blame rather than looking at themselves
 


Chicken Run

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Bit disappointed with him saying that, it's akin to calling Tony Bloom a racist for sacking Chris Hughton. If he was trying to be be a candidate for an old-school, Leave-voting, deprived, red wall working class constituency then, yes, I could image the fear that a trans person would lose votes might be an issue. Wrongly, obviously, but I can see some might take it into account - especially if they're trying to unseat a Tory.

But this is Brighton. I know we're not all woke vegan hipsters, but if anywhere would welcome a trans candidate it would be here. Blimey, we've voted in a Green MP for the last few elections so we're not afraid to be different.

Bit disappointed with him saying that, it's akin to calling Tony Bloom a racist for sacking Chris Hughton. If he was trying to be be a candidate for an old-school, Leave-voting, deprived, red wall working class constituency then, yes, I could image the fear that a trans person would lose votes might be an issue. Wrongly, obviously, but I can see some might take it into account - especially if they're trying to unseat a Tory.

But this is Brighton. I know we're not all woke vegan hipsters, but if anywhere would welcome a trans candidate it would be here. Blimey, we've voted in a Green MP for the last few elections so we're not afraid to be different.
She said similar in her failure to be elected to stand in Sheffield a couple of years ago, bad loser me thinks.

From the Guardian in 2022

“transphobia throughout this campaign. It has been very difficult to sift through this and continue to run positive campaigns. Yet, we all managed it.”
 






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EDIT: I may have got his pronouns wrong. Apologies. It's just that when I see 'Eddie' I think of him as male, and when I see 'Suzy' I think of him as female. Plus I've know him as male for so long it's hard to adjust/remember.

Just on your last bit, was chatting to her manager last year and even he admits he gets it wrong still. She doesn't mind that people mix it up, but obviously Suzie would like to known as that, yet understands it's a huge adjustment.
 




beorhthelm

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disappointing to pull the trans card. think member's views were posted earlier in thread, amounted to lots of focus on what Izzard could do to raise profile of the constituency and thin on knowing local issues.
 
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Chicken Run

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disappointing to pull the trans card. think member's views were posted earlier in thread, amounted to lots of focus on what Izzard could do to raise profile of the constituency and thin on knowing local issues.
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disappointing to pull the trans card. think member's views were posted earlier in thread, amounted to lots of focus on what Izzard could do to raise profile of the constituency and thin on knowing local issues.
I quite like a lot of the stuff Izzard has done. Marathons etc

I honestly think she’s putting far too much emphasis on the trans thing.

I don’t think anyone, especially in Brighton cares. Or frankly even understands who or what gender she is. I have no idea what her status is. And I don’t really care, that’s her business.

I think her political foray was ill defined, badly conceived, poorly executed, and basically hard to fathom.

People are unlikely to support what they don’t understand, Brexit excepted.
 
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Bit disappointed with him saying that, it's akin to calling Tony Bloom a racist for sacking Chris Hughton. If he was trying to be be a candidate for an old-school, Leave-voting, deprived, red wall working class constituency then, yes, I could image the fear that a trans person would lose votes might be an issue. Wrongly, obviously, but I can see some might take it into account - especially if they're trying to unseat a Tory.

But this is Brighton. I know we're not all woke vegan hipsters, but if anywhere would welcome a trans candidate it would be here. Blimey, we've voted in a Green MP for the last few elections so we're not afraid to be different.

EDIT: I may have got his pronouns wrong. Apologies. It's just that when I see 'Eddie' I think of him as male, and when I see 'Suzy' I think of him as female. Plus I've know him as male for so long it's hard to adjust/remember.
Eddie doesn't care what pronoun you use for him. He has made that clear, passim.
 


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I quite like a lot of the stuff Izzard has done. Marathons etc

I honestly think she’s putting far too much emphasis on the trans thing.

I don’t think anyone, especially in Brighton cares. Or frankly even understands who or what gender she is. I have no idea what her status is. And I don’t really care, that’s her business.

I think her political foray was ill defined, badly conceived, poorly executed, and basically hard to fathom.

People are unlikely to support what they don’t understand.
But is much easier to blame transphobia than accept they are crap politician. Bit like Diane Abbott always claims any criticism is because she is black.
 


The Clamp

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But is much easier to blame transphobia than accept they are crap politician. Bit like Diane Abbott always claims any criticism is because she is black.
I honestly couldn’t tell you if Izzard is a good politician. It doesn’t look like it.
 




sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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To be fair, Eddie was born in Aden, moved to Northern Ireland when he was one, moved to Wales when he was five, and to Sussex when he was seven. I’d say her roots are spread far wider than just Sussex, and I think it is part of what makes her such an interesting comedian, she’d be a good MP for you in my opinion.
you can have her mate.
 


Curious Orange

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It says in that article that they came out as transgender in 1985, but I seem to recall them saying they were a man who simply liked to wear women's clothes back then? I thought it was only recently that they said they were transgender.

Transvestite, transgender, and transexual aren't all the same thing though, and I don't know why they get grouped together. Frankly I can recall more people having a problem with Eddie's comedy than the clothes he wears.

I enjoy the comedy, seriously respect the way he pushed himself for Comic Relief, am ambivalent about his clothing choices, and am not sure he has approached his political career in a very accessible way for most people.
 


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