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[Cricket] ECB And Afghanistan Fixture Boycott



Nobby Cybergoat

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Yes to those correctly identifying that the BCCI, have no interest in the rights of any humans anywhere and only really care about expanding their wealth and influence
 




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Nigel Farage will often make statements that are fair and correct. My problem with him and those behind him is not that they don't say truths sometimes but the heart with which they are said. The truth is often told with hate and murky agenda

But moving back to the point in hand, I don't think Afghanistani men should be banned from international domestic competitions, but I do feel that the international team should be sidelined. I think the Aussies are of the same view.
Someone mentioned the properties of a broken clock earlier.

Oh, it was me.
 


A1X

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We 100% should boycott.

But it won’t make an iota of difference. Afghanistan are India’s “pet project”, I don’t know why but I doubt it’s for philanthropic reasons. A nice reliable vote at ICC meetings, for example.
 


knocky1

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In all fairness the women's team had trouble filling fielding positions behind the wicket. They could never have slips and leg slips with fine legs. Having everyone in the covers and extra covers made it easy for the opposition when batting.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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In all fairness the women's team had trouble filling fielding positions behind the wicket. They could never have slips and leg slips with fine legs. Having everyone in the covers and extra covers made it easy for the opposition when batting.
Hilarity
 




Berty23

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I am not as sure as others about the boycott. I would imagine that the Taliban could not give less of a stuff about cricket and whether we play them or not. I wonder what the brilliant England cricketer who coaches Afghanistan would make of it. What would a boycott change? I am guessing nothing other than make people sitting thousands of miles away feel better about themselves and think they are making a difference.

It is a horrible move by the government to put it on the players. Maybe our parliament should not have decided to withdraw from Afghanistan given this was obviously going to happen.
 




Professor Plum

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This isn't "thinking" and it can't be understood. The Taliban have banned kitchens from having windows in case a man looks in and sees a woman.

I never understand why it's the women who get punished for this apparent inability of the men to stop letching at them.
 




Zebedee

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Or even better, knowing the numbers who lost their lives for nothing, not going in the first place.
Here, here. I was at the sharp end of this in the MOD when our soldiers in Afghanistan were sustaining large numbers of fatalities and casualties. The whole operation was a complete and utter waste of time and the Afghan people had absolutely no gratitude or appreciation for what the British forces were trying to do. It was a huge waste of life and resources.
 


Chicken Run

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Here, here. I was at the sharp end of this in the MOD when our soldiers in Afghanistan were sustaining large numbers of fatalities and casualties. The whole operation was a complete and utter waste of time and the Afghan people had absolutely no gratitude or appreciation for what the British forces were trying to do. It was a huge waste of life and resources.
Dreadful era for our service personnel all round, and the grinning jackanapes still dancing his way round the after dinner circuit and sticking his unwelcome beak into British Political matters, i personally along with many i suspect will open a bottle of good champagne to celebrate his death that’s for certain!
 


Eeyore

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I am not as sure as others about the boycott. I would imagine that the Taliban could not give less of a stuff about cricket and whether we play them or not. I wonder what the brilliant England cricketer who coaches Afghanistan would make of it. What would a boycott change? I am guessing nothing other than make people sitting thousands of miles away feel better about themselves and think they are making a difference.

It is a horrible move by the government to put it on the players. Maybe our parliament should not have decided to withdraw from Afghanistan given this was obviously going to happen.
It's not about feeling better about ourselves, it's about the sport. The ICC ruling is that all nations should have pathways. Afghanistan does not just have no pathway, it persecuted its female cricketers, forcing them to flee.

If a nation refuses to allow women and girls to play cricket then it cannot be allowed to play cricket. No ifs, no 'think of the rupees'. The ICC needs to implement its own rules.
 




Berty23

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It's not about feeling better about ourselves, it's about the sport. The ICC ruling is that all nations should have pathways. Afghanistan does not just have no pathway, it persecuted its female cricketers, forcing them to flee.

If a nation refuses to allow women and girls to play cricket then it cannot be allowed to play cricket. No ifs, no 'think of the rupees'. The ICC needs to implement its own rules.
Do you actually think that us not playing will make any difference? India control the ICC. This is a tournament where the location of the semi finals all depends what happens with India qualifying. The whole thing is a shambles. Putting a decision like this on the players is unfair. People say “keep politics out of sport” but then want them to make a stand.
 


Scappa

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Do you actually think that us not playing will make any difference? India control the ICC. This is a tournament where the location of the semi finals all depends what happens with India qualifying. The whole thing is a shambles. Putting a decision like this on the players is unfair. People say “keep politics out of sport” but then want them to make a stand.
As demonstrated by the fact that they have been allowed to unilaterally decide that they don't fancy playing in the same country as the rest of the the participants in this year's upcoming Champions Trophy (held in Pakistan), instead having all their fixtures moved to the UAE
 


Eeyore

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Do you actually think that us not playing will make any difference? India control the ICC. This is a tournament where the location of the semi finals all depends what happens with India qualifying. The whole thing is a shambles. Putting a decision like this on the players is unfair. People say “keep politics out of sport” but then want them to make a stand.
But this isn't about politics first, It is about the universal right of access to the game as stipulated by the ICC itself. This is affecting the code of the sport itself in relation to how it is played and opportunities are given to play. It is a sporting stand, specifically relating to cricket itself.
 




Berty23

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But this isn't about politics first, It is about the universal right of access to the game as stipulated by the ICC itself. This is affecting the code of the sport itself in relation to how it is played and opportunities are given to play. It is a sporting stand, specifically relating to cricket itself.
It is politics. It is politics of their sport. How it is governed. What the body lets go etc. this is all linked to the politics within Afghanistan. I don’t think it is fair to put this on the players.
 


GT49er

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I am not as sure as others about the boycott. I would imagine that the Taliban could not give less of a stuff about cricket and whether we play them or not. I wonder what the brilliant England cricketer who coaches Afghanistan would make of it. What would a boycott change? I am guessing nothing other than make people sitting thousands of miles away feel better about themselves and think they are making a difference.

It is a horrible move by the government to put it on the players. Maybe our parliament should not have decided to withdraw from Afghanistan given this was obviously going to happen.
What do you mean, the government 'put it on the players'? They've got to come out and individually decide, have they? No. Thought not.

If the ECB decides to boycott it (and they should). then the ECB simply won't send a team to play; no players will be selected and have to refuse.
 


Greenbag50

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If women playing sports is forbidden under their Islamic law then shirley we should respect that otherwise we are just being Islamophobic and no one wants to be tarred with that brush these days do they


“I don’t think women will be allowed to play cricket because it is not necessary that women should play cricket,” Wasiq said. “In cricket, they might face a situation where their face and body will not be covered. Islam does not allow women to be seen like this.

“It is the media era, and there will be photos and videos, and then people watch it. Islam and the Islamic Emirate [Afghanistan] do not allow women to play cricket or play the kind of sports where they get exposed.”
And there is that word Islam again….
Seems popular at the moment; almost as if there is an underlying culture within it that demeans women and is mysoginstic.
 






Eeyore

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The views of a former Afghan women's player on Newsnight tonight.


I love the slight Aussie accent she has already picked up. Good for her. I hope they are getting all the support they need. The Aussies are generally pretty good at that. These youngsters have been through hell.
 


keaton

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Nigel Farage will often make statements that are fair and correct. My problem with him and those behind him is not that they don't say truths sometimes but the heart with which they are said. The truth is often told with hate and murky agenda

But moving back to the point in hand, I don't think Afghanistani men should be banned from international domestic competitions, but I do feel that the international team should be sidelined. I think the Aussies are of the same view.
The Aussies are and refuse to play series against them.
But didn't boycott the game in the last T20 world cup.
 


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