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Easy solution for FIFA re techology and rule changes...



Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,270
Simple. You have an arrangement with an affiliated FA that, for a fee, new technology and any rule changes will be trialled for a whole season.

Example: FIFA agree with the Scottish FA that the SPL will be the "tester" league. The technolgy gets installed at all of the grounds, the changes are communicated to all concerned well in advance.

Everybody wins. FIFA get to trial whatever they want - if it works then great! If it doesn't then they themselves don't come out of it looking bad.

The SPL wins because they get cash to feed down the league in an appropriate manner, AND they get a worldwide captive audience because of the changes on trial. Sponsors and clubs alike would be up for that.

The fans win because they will end up with rule changes that have been trialled and that have been proved to work. There's also plenty to debate when a game-changing incident is broadcast around the world.

Also, the Old Firm 'grip' might be challenged if the Hearts and Dundee Utd's of this world manage to react to the changes better than Celtic and Rangers.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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Surely to get result you can properly analyse, it needs to be trialled at a more competent, high-profile level than the SPL though.

Maybe the JPT ?
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,270
Harsh, Easy. But fair. Maybe the Swiss league might be better - less chance of rioting or open warfare there.

I really believe in trialling though. The SPL's always whingeing they get less money from TV, less viewers as more watch the English EPL. This would be an opportunity for cash, fame and global attention.

Also, their players would have a head start of the rest of the world in terms of playing with the changes. They might actually qualify for a major tournament again....
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,021
you mean like the Europa league, using goal line assistants? they still got decisions wrong.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,270
How can they trial something successfully in the Europa League? I assume the officials return to apply a completely different set of rules in their own country.

Nothing will succeed unless it is trialled week in, week out.
 




Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,270
My point was more they could use the league to trial rule changes and / or technology.

I can remember the start of the first season when the backpass was outlawed. About chaos for the first couple of months. At least players and officials could track the trials, change training routines etc. Then there would be less chaos as and when real changes are introduced.
 


strings

Moving further North...
Feb 19, 2006
9,969
Barnsley
We were having this exact conversation at work this morning. We agreed that goal-line technology needs to be tested. At first we thought the UEFA Euro-League would be the best place to do it. But then we thought no - we need somewhere with reletively few grounds, therefore limiting the potential cost of any trial. We all agreed that the league needed to be competetive - i.e. not park football or training grounds. So we came up with the solution that goal-line technology should be trialled in... the Scottish Premiership.

Great minds and all that, Mr Pavillionaire
 


8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
I vaguely recall kick-ins instead of throw-ins being trialled once but I can't find anything about it.
 




Everest

Me
Jul 5, 2003
20,741
Southwick
Whatever happens technology should not change the rules, that would be stupid.

Agreed, but some technology would apply the laws better and more accurately.
 




Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
I vaguely recall kick-ins instead of throw-ins being trialled once but I can't find anything about it.

It was Ryman leagues I think. Stupid idea that one. Not sure what they were trying to achieve, maybe the ball being in play more as every throw in is in effect a free kick.
 




Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
If there's money to be made from trialling it, expect (I believe they're called) the G14 to have a big say.
 


newhaven seagull 85

SELDOM IN NEWHAVEN
Dec 3, 2006
966
surely the simple answer to goaline technology is for every televised game the 4th official should be allowed to look at replays of not given or given goals to see if the ball has crossed the line.
if not given by the ref then the game continues until if necessary the 4th official tells him he is wrong via earpiece.
if given then reviewed by the 4th official and if not over the line goal disallowed before the restart.
no interruption to the game at all.( and will probably take 30 seconds max to review)
 


CliveWalkerWingWizard

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2006
2,689
surrenden
surely the simple answer to goaline technology is for every televised game the 4th official should be allowed to look at replays of not given or given goals to see if the ball has crossed the line.
if not given by the ref then the game continues until if necessary the 4th official tells him he is wrong via earpiece.
if given then reviewed by the 4th official and if not over the line goal disallowed before the restart.
no interruption to the game at all.( and will probably take 30 seconds max to review)

I came up with exactly the same conclusion on another thread.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,425
Location Location
I know. Lets just have Andy Gray making the decisions. He can get his video marker pen out and everything.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,021
surely the simple answer to goaline technology is for every televised game the 4th official should be allowed to look at replays of not given or given goals to see if the ball has crossed the line.
if not given by the ref then the game continues until if necessary the 4th official tells him he is wrong via earpiece.
if given then reviewed by the 4th official and if not over the line goal disallowed before the restart.
no interruption to the game at all.( and will probably take 30 seconds max to review)

goal line technology doesnt require any review, simple chip-in-ball trakcing or clever arrangment of cameras to create an 100% accurate decision. bear in mind the ball has to *wholey* cross the line, so there should be a gap between the ball and the posts on a side on view. difficulty being a glove or boot in the way, so would need a couple of angles. then signal the ref, flash a light, sound a klaxon if you want. simple, automatic and cheap.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,425
Location Location
If we're talking new RULES to be introduced to soccerball, I still want to see the self-pass come in, like what they've done in hockey. That would be FLAIR, and would work brilliantly I reckons.

Get it trialled.
 


mistahclarke

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2009
2,997
every stadium has a jumbo screen and everyone can see the replay. simples (except this can only apply in the big comps where the stadiums have jumbo screens)
 






newhaven seagull 85

SELDOM IN NEWHAVEN
Dec 3, 2006
966
goal line technology doesnt require any review, simple chip-in-ball trakcing or clever arrangment of cameras to create an 100% accurate decision. bear in mind the ball has to *wholey* cross the line, so there should be a gap between the ball and the posts on a side on view. difficulty being a glove or boot in the way, so would need a couple of angles. then signal the ref, flash a light, sound a klaxon if you want. simple, automatic and cheap.

yes.but how do you make absolutly sure that the chip is in the centre of the ball, as if it moved to one side then goals could be given which did not fully cross the line.
 


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