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[Brighton] E Scooters



Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Isn't their emergence here is more likely a consequence of their popularity in the US where they are legal?

They’re also popular around Europe. I first saw them in Paris a couple of years back. They’ve been in Berlin for a year or so now.

I think they’re a great idea and they work well, and play their part, in the urban transport plan.
 




albionite

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May 20, 2009
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Have to say, love my e -scooter. Mostly police ignore you on it as long as you are not being a dick.
Very popular in eastern Europe, but they do have better cycle lanes than us.
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
Have to say, love my e -scooter. Mostly police ignore you on it as long as you are not being a dick.
Very popular in eastern Europe, but they do have better cycle lanes than us.

Shows how seriously we take cycling over here
 


Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
There are some e-scooter trials going on around the country, but they are limited to 15.5 mph.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e-scoot...dditch-,Speed limits,to a lower maximum speed.

They seem potentially quite useful for short urban journeys and I've certainly noticed a lot in Brighton this summer. Too fast for the pavement IMO, but seem well suited to segregated cycle lanes. Seem vulnerable on the open road, but I suppose no more so than cyclists.

I don't think they've been developed to avoid legislation. If that was the aim then they made a poor job of it as existing legislation here is enough to deem them illegal to use in most situations. Isn't their emergence here is more likely a consequence of their popularity in the US where they are legal?

Their emergence is because they are quick (up to 30mph), eco friendly and incredible fun to ride.
 


zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Shows how seriously we take cycling over here

With all due respect all of our roads and pavements are appalling. It's not just cyclists (who don't even contribute to the equation) that have to put up with it.

The best induistry to be in for any road use is tyres and suspension components!
 




Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
should be treated as cycles, with strict speed/power limit. current rule is arcahic, putting them in the motorised category when so different to other motorised vehicles.

Cycles don't have a strict speed limit, why should scooters?
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Cycles don't have a strict speed limit, why should scooters?

principally to make them safer for rider and those around them. 30mph unlicensed and uninsured isnt very clever. i'd impose a speed restriction on cycles too.
 






Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
principally to make them safer for rider and those around them. 30mph unlicensed and uninsured isnt very clever. i'd impose a speed restriction on cycles too.

Accepting your caveat about cycles, 30 mph unlicensed an uninsured describes cyclists too. But cyclists get a free pass on everything.
 








Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
Not 100% correct. Electric cycles are restricted to 15mph.

30mph electric cycles need to be insured

I did not know that. I assumed that electric cycles have a motor to assist the older or less able cyclist to climb hills rather than punt along at speed. I apologise to all I may offend by my casual stereotyping.
 


B-right-on

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Apr 23, 2015
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Shoreham Beaaaach
Has anyone got one on here, how much , how long does a charge last etc, any mad storied?


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My son in law is a techie nut. Bought one at Xmas for £1500. Does 30 mph and goes from home (Shoreham) to work in Worthing town centre every day (apart from really shite weather). Gets there and back easily on a full charge. Says can do 30 miles on full charge.

Been on it, great fun, easy to store, eco friendly way to travel. Uses cycle route 80% of the journey. Will increase to 90% when route extends to Kingston Lane area.

As usual laws are way behind tech. Can ride on private land only if you own one but if you rent one, can ride on the road. Stupid. Can see what they are trying to do to get in some rules but that's a ridiculous solution imo.
 


brightn'ove

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Apr 12, 2011
9,169
London
Out of genuine interest, Im trying to understand why any vehicle on the road should be exempt from road tax, thats whats used, or meant to be used to maintain the roads and keep them safe isnt it? Maybe a really low road tax for things that cant go on motorways

:ffsparr:
 




zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex, by the sea
As soon as I can find a local job I'll be looking at one, cycling/Lambretta/E car/scooter

My son in law is a techie nut. Bought one at Xmas for £1500. Does 30 mph and goes from home (Shoreham) to work in Worthing town centre every day (apart from really shite weather). Gets there and back easily on a full charge. Says can do 30 miles on full charge.

Been on it, great fun, easy to store, eco friendly way to travel. Uses cycle route 80% of the journey. Will increase to 90% when route extends to Kingston Lane area.

As usual laws are way behind tech. Can ride on private land only if you own one but if you rent one, can ride on the road. Stupid. Can see what they are trying to do to get in some rules but that's a ridiculous solution imo.
 


AIT76

The wisdom of a fool
Jul 29, 2004
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I did not know that. I assumed that electric cycles have a motor to assist the older or less able cyclist to climb hills rather than punt along at speed. I apologise to all I may offend by my casual stereotyping.

They're not limited to 15mph, that is when the assistance cuts out. They can be pedalled manually at whatever speed the rider is able to attain...
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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They're not limited to 15mph, that is when the assistance cuts out. They can be pedalled manually at whatever speed the rider is able to attain...

Yes, don't want to think what speed I went down Coldean Lane on my ebike the other day
 


GM98

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Sep 6, 2008
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Shoreham
They're not limited to 15mph, that is when the assistance cuts out. They can be pedalled manually at whatever speed the rider is able to attain...

This is the correct answer.

I have a pedal assist bike that cuts out at 15 mph, however I have had it at 25mph several times, normally downhill:lolol:
 




Baker lite

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Mar 16, 2017
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I think they’re a great idea, particularly in Towns like Brighton, I believe they should have insurance and helmets should also be compulsory, perhaps some sort of test also?..
 


dejavuatbtn

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Aug 4, 2010
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Henfield
Personally, I think any form of transport should require insurance. This should result in safer vehicles and better standards of driving/cycling/scootering.
 


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