Dyche claims he isn't given the same credit he deserves as Guardiola, Klopp and Ranieri

[lancyclaret]

They were in receipt of parachute payments when he took over so will always have had a bigger budget than most championship clubs.

When Burnley finished second behind Leicester in 2013/14, the budget/wage bill was only the 14th biggest out of 24....Burnley's only signing for a fee that season was for Ashley Barnes in January 2014, Charlie Austin having been sold and not replaced in August 2013.

Burnley fans are roughly divided equally. Some say Harry Potts (1957-1970) and others pick Dyche (2012-?) as the best post-WW2 Clarets manager.

 

[Driver8]

Whatever you think about him, his team, whatever else - he's absolutely right in what he's said in that article. He won't be linked to a top job at any point. He's the new Sam Allardyce, if he wants to manage in the top half of the Premier League then he has to take a crap Northern club and transform them. He'll also have a stint playing firefighter at some point I'm sure - English managers are dismissed as being largely second rate.

Probably because English managers are largely second rate.

 

[Icy Gull]

They were in receipt of parachute payments when he took over so will always have had a bigger budget than most championship clubs.

Exactly, any half decent manager who is given time should be able to get a club with parachute payments promoted. What he has done is nothing special imo.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Exactly, any half decent manager who is given time should be able to get a club with parachute payments promoted. What he has done is nothing special imo.

They didn't have parachute payments when he took them up the first time though

 

[brightn'ove]

They didn't have parachute payments when he took them up the first time though

I think they did, didn't they? They were relegated from the prem in 2010 so would've had parachute payments 2010-11, 11-12 and 12-13, weren't they promoted in 12-13?

 

[lancyclaret]

They were in receipt of parachute payments when he took over so will always have had a bigger budget than most championship clubs.

When Burnley finished second behind Leicester in 2013/14, the budget/wage bill was only the 14th biggest out of 24....Burnley's only signing for a fee that season was for Ashley Barnes in January 2014, Charlie Austin having been sold and not replaced in August 2013. You can check figures in Swiss Ramble blog.


Burnley fans are roughly divided equally. Some say Harry Potts (1957-1970) and others pick Dyche (2012-?) as the best post-WW2 Clarets manager.

Can see Dyche as manager of someone like Villa this season or next if things don't work out for Di Matteo. He was hours away from getting Sunderland job last season but Advocaat changed his mind and came back for a second ill-fated stint before Allardyce.

 

[Icy Gull]

They didn't have parachute payments when he took them up the first time though

Were they not in the last year of them?

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Were they not in the last year of them?

The post above suggests they had an average budget.

 

[pasty]

Dyche is, and always will be, a CJTC, so I don't really care what he says about anything.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Probably because English managers are largely second rate.

How would we know? Moyes had the impossible job at Man Utd and there ends the opportunities an English manager has had to manage an "elite top 4" club. Rodgers very nearly won the league with Liverpool, that would have been huge for British managers but ultimately he fell just short.

 

[Icy Gull]

The post above suggests they had an average budget.

No idea, maybe they still had some better players on premier league wages though? I am guessing here, your knoweldge of Burnley may well be better than mine.

I don't like them, along with Norwich they seem to try and use the Albion's better players to bolster their team because they have more money than us.

 

[Driver8]

The post above suggests they had an average budget.

That doesn't tell the whole story though as they would have had enjoyed parachute payments in the previous two seasons so wouldn't have had to make the capital outlay for new players, they already had them.

 

[Icy Gull]

How would we know? Moyes had the impossible job at Man Utd and there ends the opportunities an English manager has had to manage an "elite top 4" club. Rodgers very nearly won the league with Liverpool, that would have been huge for British managers but ultimately he fell just short.

and then the wheels came off completely. I think it was all about Suarez and very little to do with Rodgers

 

[Stumpy Tim]

No idea, maybe they still had some better players on premier league wages though? I am guessing here, your knoweldge of Burnley may well be better than mine.

I don't like them, along with Norwich they seem to try and use the Albion's better players to bolster their team because they have more money than us.

I know about as much as you, but I certainly don't recall Burnley "going for it". There are also lots of teams with parachute payments, so he would have had to compete with them too

Dyche has done a good job for them. He may not be overly likable, but he has done well.

 

[Icy Gull]

That doesn't tell the whole story though as they would have had enjoyed parachute payments in the previous two seasons so wouldn't have had to make the capital outlay for new players, they already had them.

we seem to be echoing each other

 

[Icy Gull]

Can't argue with that but I don't think his style of football is good for anything except getting out of the Championship. I would be astounded if a top half team came in for him.

 

[Exile]

Sean Dyche will never be a 'fashionable' manager, whatever he achieves - just look at him, and listen to how he talks.

More to do with his appearance and demeanor than being English though. Watch the smug, preening, blue-eyed Howe get the bigger offers, off the back of no better a CV.

 

[Dick Head]

The thing is, would you ever see Hughton giving an interview like this? No, he just gets on with his job, dignified and always maintaining his class. He doesn't need to shout about and make comments, he never says the wrong thing. One of the reasons we're so lucky to have him.

I wonder what he's like at HT in the dressing room when we're 1-0 down.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

and then the wheels came off completely. I think it was all about Suarez and very little to do with Rodgers

I think teams are always about players rather than managers. But surely there's credit to Rodgers for getting the most out of him? He built the team to suit Suarez and Sturridge, it was no accident that the team was scoring goals all over the place and nearly won the league. How much credit do you give Ranieri for Mahrez and Vardy's performances last season? Or more importantly, their defence which was so incredibly solid.

 

[lancyclaret]

Sean Dyche will never be a 'fashionable' manager, whatever he achieves - just look at him, and listen to how he talks.

More to do with his appearance and demeanor than being English though. Watch the smug, preening, blue-eyed Howe get the bigger offers, off the back of no better a CV.

Exactly.........you probably all know that Dyche replaced "smug, but hen-pecked" Eddie in October 2012. Despite being given a generous budget which enabled him to buy Ings, Austin, Trippier, Shackell and Mee to add to Jay Rodriguez, Howe guided Burnley to an unimpressive 13th in his only full season at Turf Moor (2011-2012).

The following season started disastrously for Howe and when he jumped ship (wife homesick given as main reason), Burnley were 16th with just 11 points from 10 games and just one point above the relegation zone. With a back five of Lee Grant, Trippier, Duff, Shackell and Mee, Burnley shipped more than 20 goals in these 10 games including a 1-3 v Brighton, 3-4 v Palace and a 3-3 v Sheff Wed.

Dyche came in and sorted the defensive shambles with the same players and the club has never really looked back since.