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Dutch cabinet approves partial ban on Islamic veil in public areas



pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Im not saying certain people on this thread are wrong when they say all muslim women wear the veil through choice.......oh wait.....yes i am

have a look at these tossers saying real men take charge of what their women wear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32932003

The battle between the veil and the miniskirt

Two opposing campaigns arguing about what women should wear are gripping the Arab world.
What makes a man? According to the people behind a campaign which apparently started in Algeria this week, "real men" take charge of what the women in their family wear - and they make sure females are covered up in public. The Facebook page "Be a man and don't let your women out in revealing clothes" has attracted thousands of likes. On the page, men are sharing verses from the Quran and posting photos of their family members wearing conservative clothes. They argue that the Islamic hijab and other modest attire protects women from unwanted attention.
A few of the posts compare women to objects. Under a picture of two lollipops - one wrapped and pristine, the other unwrapped and covered in ants, a caption reads: "You can't stop them but you can protect yourself." Another image compares a woman who reveals "too much" of her body to a peeled banana
But the campaign stirred a strong reaction from secular activists in neighbouring Tunisia, a country known for its more progressive views on women's rights compared to others in the region. Tunisian campaigner Rachid ben Othman led the online offensive by calling for an "international day of the mini skirt" in a show of solidarity with Algerian women. "We must fight the pro-Islamists taking over," Othman wrote on the event's Facebook page.
Another Tunisian campaigner, who wanted to remain anonymous because of fears for her safety, told BBC Trending that the "Be a man" campaign demeans women. When asked why a miniskirt was chosen as the poster garment for the campaign, she said: "It had to make the same point, they chose the veil as a piece of clothing and we chose the miniskirt."
Citing the country's history of comparatively liberal mores and the relatively recent move towards conservative Islamic dress, she noted: "The mini-skirt existed in Tunisia long before the veil."
The miniskirt Facebook event page was briefly taken down for unknown reasons earlier this week. Facebook said it could not comment on individual cases, and the page was later reinstated. The event was initially planned for Saturday but has since been delayed, and campaigners are now asking women all around the world to go out in mini skirts on 6 June and posts selfies in defiance of the "be a man" campaign. We tried to contact the "Be a man" organisers - but they didn't respond to repeated requests for comment.
 






BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,207
Im not saying certain people on this thread are wrong when they say all muslim women wear the veil through choice.......oh wait.....yes i am

have a look at these tossers saying real men take charge of what their women wear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32932003

The battle between the veil and the miniskirt

Two opposing campaigns arguing about what women should wear are gripping the Arab world.
What makes a man? According to the people behind a campaign which apparently started in Algeria this week, "real men" take charge of what the women in their family wear - and they make sure females are covered up in public. The Facebook page "Be a man and don't let your women out in revealing clothes" has attracted thousands of likes. On the page, men are sharing verses from the Quran and posting photos of their family members wearing conservative clothes. They argue that the Islamic hijab and other modest attire protects women from unwanted attention.
A few of the posts compare women to objects. Under a picture of two lollipops - one wrapped and pristine, the other unwrapped and covered in ants, a caption reads: "You can't stop them but you can protect yourself." Another image compares a woman who reveals "too much" of her body to a peeled banana
But the campaign stirred a strong reaction from secular activists in neighbouring Tunisia, a country known for its more progressive views on women's rights compared to others in the region. Tunisian campaigner Rachid ben Othman led the online offensive by calling for an "international day of the mini skirt" in a show of solidarity with Algerian women. "We must fight the pro-Islamists taking over," Othman wrote on the event's Facebook page.
Another Tunisian campaigner, who wanted to remain anonymous because of fears for her safety, told BBC Trending that the "Be a man" campaign demeans women. When asked why a miniskirt was chosen as the poster garment for the campaign, she said: "It had to make the same point, they chose the veil as a piece of clothing and we chose the miniskirt."
Citing the country's history of comparatively liberal mores and the relatively recent move towards conservative Islamic dress, she noted: "The mini-skirt existed in Tunisia long before the veil."
The miniskirt Facebook event page was briefly taken down for unknown reasons earlier this week. Facebook said it could not comment on individual cases, and the page was later reinstated. The event was initially planned for Saturday but has since been delayed, and campaigners are now asking women all around the world to go out in mini skirts on 6 June and posts selfies in defiance of the "be a man" campaign. We tried to contact the "Be a man" organisers - but they didn't respond to repeated requests for comment.
To be fair no-one had said that all women wear it out of choice.

Your example is hideous. Some people are utter dicks.
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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"He said many migrants have established themselves smoothly in Europe, have families and are full-fledged members of the European community. “Unfortunately, religious habits tend to be mixed together with the approach to the ideas of the state and law,” Svoboda said, adding that the Czech Republic HAS NOT been faced with this problem so far. The West has been turning a blind eye to the problem for a long time, Svoboda said.

From the Prague Post
http://www.praguepost.com/czech-new...lam-incompatible-with-democracy#ixzz3bLgVs1oc
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
"He said many migrants have established themselves smoothly in Europe, have families and are full-fledged members of the European community. “Unfortunately, religious habits tend to be mixed together with the approach to the ideas of the state and law,” Svoboda said, adding that the Czech Republic HAS NOT been faced with this problem so far. The West has been turning a blind eye to the problem for a long time, Svoboda said.

From the Prague Post
http://www.praguepost.com/czech-new...lam-incompatible-with-democracy#ixzz3bLgVs1oc

AhSoulman, great find.
Have you found that page you say you got a picture of the Labour Business Secretary from, saying he was a UKIP member yet, or is your deception ongoing?
 




daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
Having a good cry are you hypocrite? I was using them as a comparison of a contradictory stance used by people like you. You aptly dived in makig a foool of yourself and are now being tardpiled because you have presented yourself as an easy target, ie trying to defend a weak position.

Carry on fool.


A good cry? About what?
Soulman announced that I had brought UKIP into this conversation. I did not. You did.
He is wrong.
I am correct,
You are waffling.
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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AhSoulman, great find.
Have you found that page you say you got a picture of the Labour Business Secretary from, saying he was a UKIP member yet, or is your deception ongoing?
Nope, as I have explained and indeed admitted many times I got it wrong. Meanwhile any post that you choose not to like or does not follow your views you will continue to avert or deflect. I await a similar accusation and response to my next post that you have no intention of responding to.
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
Nope, as I have explained and indeed admitted many times I got it wrong. Meanwhile any post that you choose not to like or does not follow your views you will continue to avert or deflect. I await a similar accusation and response to my next post that you have no intention of responding to.

The problem is, I really dont see how you could have got it so wrong. I sincerely believe you were being deceptive. Got a link to the page you made the 'mistake' on?
 




Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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The problem is, I really dont see how you could have got it so wrong. I sincerely believe you were being deceptive. Got a link to the page you made the 'mistake' on?
Why would I try to deceive when the Labour Business Secretary and a potential leader at the time is such a well known face. Unlike your barefaced lies here until your PM'S were posted on the board by the poster, my mistake I have apologise for. Meanwhile the link I put up from Prague ?
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
Why would I try to deceive when the Labour Business Secretary and a potential leader at the time is such a well known face. Unlike your barefaced lies here until your PM'S were posted on the board by the poster, my mistake I have apologise for. Meanwhile the link I put up from Prague ?

And you talk about diverting? Yeah, sounds legit.
You were either willfully deceptive, or stupidly thought a black face with a purple tie equalled UKIP. Which was it?
Why wont you share the link with me? What scares you?
Never mind your link from Prague. Stop 'deflecting'.
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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And you talk about diverting? Yeah, sounds legit.
You were either willfully deceptive, or stupidly thought a black face with a purple tie equalled UKIP. Which was it?
Why wont you share the link with me? What scares you?
Never mind your link from Prague. Stop 'deflecting'.
Deflecting from what. I posted a photo containing black and Asian markets candidates, they were all on the same photo and we're all meant to be ukip, it was a response I believe to your continuous posts about racist ukip. The Labour chap was amongst the faces on the same page.
 




Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Whether it was a mistake or not matters not. Whatever one says about UKIP, for or against, and we all know where I stand, the fact is UKIP DO have members from ethnic minorities. Quite a few in fact. So what does it matter, Soulman's point was that they have ethnic members.
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
Deflecting from what. I posted a photo containing black and Asian markets candidates, they were all on the same photo and we're all meant to be ukip, it was a response I believe to your continuous posts about racist ukip. The Labour chap was amongst the faces on the same page.

So, show me the link I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU....
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
Whether it was a mistake or not matters not. Whatever one says about UKIP, for or against, and we all know where I stand, the fact is UKIP DO have members from ethnic minorities. Quite a few in fact. So what does it matter, Soulman's point was that they have ethnic members.

Because, in a sad attempt to 'win' a point on a forum, I believe that it was a deliberate attempt at deception....and im quite enjoying watching soulman 'deflecting'
 








Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
19,238
or he could simply show me the link. Im guessing its from a dodgy publication that he is not willing to share. Which is even funnier.

Just go back to the pic and click on properties. If you really care.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Because, in a sad attempt to 'win' a point on a forum, I believe that it was a deliberate attempt at deception....and im quite enjoying watching soulman 'deflecting'
Let me guess, you're ''pointing and laughing '', jesus wept do you not realise what a complete tool you make yourself look with this utter, utter bollox, you sound about 12 for christs sake.
 








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