Dunky or Keane

[lancyclaret]

Dunk needs Brighton to be promoted this season - he is 25 now (14 months older than Keane).

 

[BensGrandad]

How much money are you prepared to bet me on that - England call-ups for both Dunk and Stockdale? Really?

The envy and resentment (against Burnley) of SOME Brighton fans amazes me.

Not resentment against Burnley being a nothing club since Jimmy McIlroy was playing. But I can see Dunk getting in the squads very soon and on tonights showing Keane may figure next season more although I wouldn't play him on Sunday. As regards Stockdale he is a far better keeper than Heaton who is only in the squad because of injury to Butland and I believe the contender for the squad place with Stockdale will be Pickford of Sunderland.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Stockdale was in the England squad when he was at Fulham.

 

[8th battalion East Lancs]

Not resentment against Burnley being a nothing club since Jimmy McIlroy was playing. But I can see Dunk getting in the squads very soon and on tonights showing Keane may figure next season more although I wouldn't play him on Sunday. As regards Stockdale he is a far better keeper than Heaton who is only in the squad because of injury to Butland and I believe the contender for the squad place with Stockdale will be Pickford of Sunderland.

Why is Stockdale 'a far better keeper' than Heaton?

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[Stat Brother]

Why is Stockdale 'a far better keeper' than Heaton?

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Even with only 376 I still expected better.

You started it so you better see this through, and not just run away laughing at the rest of us.




Oh and a little tip.
BG was one of Stockdales biggest critics when he was being called upon 10 times a game, every game.
He wanted rid of the liability.

 

[neilbard]

It really is a case of wait and see the Premier League may find him out

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Butland/Hart/Pickford should be the England keepers.

Pickford is unreal.

 

[BensGrandad]

Why is Stockdale 'a far better keeper' than Heaton?

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His general command of his defence his agility and distribution oif the ball are in my mind superior to Heaton. He had his critics on here, me included, when he first signed but has confounded then and improved drastically

 

[BensGrandad]

Butland/Hart/Pickford should be the England keepers.

Pickford is unreal.

With Forster as the next choice as cover for injury to others.

 

[8th battalion East Lancs]

His general command of his defence his agility and distribution oif the ball are in my mind superior to Heaton. He had his critics on here, me included, when he first signed but has confounded then and improved drastically

'His general command of defence'

Aye we made Heaton captain because of his non existent leadership qualities.

'his agility'

Heaton is not called Tom Cat for nothing.

'and distribution'

I have no idea what Stockdale's distribution is like, and I'll bet that you know nothing of Heaton's either.

I believe that Stockdale is a very good goalkeeper, but stats and career facts up to press (you know the only things we can go off unless you watch both week in week out) show that Stockdale isn't 'a far better keeper than Heaton'.

 

[lancyclaret]

With Forster as the next choice as cover for injury to others.

So you are NOT prepared to put money where your MOUTH is?:

I'll bet £50 NEITHER Dunk nor Stockdale receive an England call -you win the bet if even one of them does.

I don't think Stockdale will add to the solitary England "C" cap he won in 2004

 

[BensGrandad]

So you are NOT prepared to put money where your MOUTH is?:

I'll bet £50 NEITHER Dunk nor Stockdale receive an England call -you win the bet if even one of them does.

I don't think Stockdale will add to the solitary England "C" cap he won in 2004

I do not bet on anything and like everything else on here it is only an individuals opinion and I stick by my opinion that either one or both will get a call up which is different to what you are saying.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

'His general command of defence'

Aye we made Heaton captain because of his non existent leadership qualities.

'his agility'

Heaton is not called Tom Cat for nothing.

'and distribution'

I have no idea what Stockdale's distribution is like, and I'll bet that you know nothing of Heaton's either.

I believe that Stockdale is a very good goalkeeper, but stats and career facts up to press (you know the only things we can go off unless you watch both week in week out) show that Stockdale isn't 'a far better keeper than Heaton'.

I'll tell you distribution wise, Stockdale, does not have anyone who comes remotely close to him in this country as far as I've seen, and that includes any Man City goalie. He is probably one of the most accurate passers in our team.

I would say that Heaton commands his box better than Stocko, though agility wise they are similar........ all opinions.


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[Ali_rrr]

Dunk needs Brighton to be promoted this season - he is 25 now (14 months older than Keane).

Absolutely. Some treat him on here like he's a rising youngster. Duffy is younger than Dunk too.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Absolutely. Some treat him on here like he's a rising youngster. Duffy is younger than Dunk too.

As I said in my post....he is no longer a novice....he is approaching full maturity as a player. The question re Dunk....is he improving sufficiently enough, season on season, to mark him down as a top PL defender and possible future International?

 

[Mo Gosfield]

I'll tell you distribution wise, Stockdale, does not have anyone who comes remotely close to him in this country as far as I've seen, and that includes any Man City goalie. He is probably one of the most accurate passers in our team.

I would say that Heaton commands his box better than Stocko, though agility wise they are similar........ all opinions.


Yep....and in my opinion, Stockdale makes more ' silly ' mistakes than Heaton and lacks the concentration levels to make it at the highest level.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

When did distribution become such a big thing with keepers?

Hugo Lloris can't kick for shit half the time and he is one of the best keepers in the world.

Thhinking about Heaton this season and the game against Man United was one of the best performances I have seen from a keeper in a while.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

When did distribution become such a big thing with keepers?

Hugo Lloris can't kick for shit half the time and he is one of the best keepers in the world.

Thhinking about Heaton this season and the game against Man United was one of the best performances I have seen from a keeper in a while.

Very debatable re Lloris, good shot stopper granted.

Neuer at Munich, Barcelona use their keeper as a sweeper, same as a number of continental teams, see also Hart situation. Italian teams as well.

Like it or not, it is a factor for teams these days and we have one of the best.


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[BensGrandad]

Man City are a good example they have replaced Hart with 2 keepers neither of whom are as good doing their major job of stopping shots but are slightly better as a 5th CB and they have suffered by this decision.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Very debatable re Lloris, good shot stopper granted.

Neuer at Munich, Barcelona use their keeper as a sweeper, same as a number of continental teams, see also Hart situation. Italian teams as well.

Like it or not, it is a factor for teams these days and we have one of the best.


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I am not sure it is that wide spread?

I can't really think of more than a couple, where as only Lloris in the top 4 does the sweeper keeper thing, and even he has calmed down a bit.

Stockdale conceded one goal at Forest and should have been punished by Newcastle, so I don't think it is that important.