[Albion] Dunk to Arsenal in January for £35-40m

[Tory Boy]

No chance of him moving this January.

Might be different in the summer, but no amount of money will budge our Chairman until then.

TB

 

[Sussex Nomad]

It would make no sense to sell Dunk in Jan!

Couldn't agree more, however...

... unless he decides he wants to go.

Is the salient point.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Because it may just be that he has ambition?

But whats that got to do with us, right now? We'd rather Dunk got a slightly improved chance at a world cup call up than Brighton stay in the premier league? Not for me mate.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

But whats that got to do with us, right now? We'd rather Dunk got a slightly improved chance at a world cup call up than Brighton stay in the premier league? Not for me mate.

But it's about the player not the club, do you not get it?

 

[clippedgull]

I'm not sure if this has already been posted.. but here it is anyway!

Lewis Dunk has spoken of his dream of playing for England - and he wants to force his way into Gareth Southgate's squad ahead of the World Cup.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-dreaming-of-place-in-england-world-cup-squad

 

[ewe2]

We would need a replacement ,of some magnitude already lined up before,TB sanctioned any such move,maybe other areas also strengthened to improve the whole squad overall.Sidwell to retire,Shalak loaned out,Murphy sold are the 3 players in the squad most at risk .Goldson perhaps would have to stay if Dunk was sold.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

But it's about the player not the club, do you not get it?

He signed a five-year contract not very long ago. You really think Lewis Dunk will go on strike if we decide to sell him in July rather than in January?

 

[Bozza]

Back 3 at the moment. Which may be an issue, as it’s a system he hasn’t played in that often.

Would that give him a shot at one of two starting places (left AND centre) rather than one in a traditional back four (left centre)?

 

[Sussex Nomad]

He signed a five-year contract not very long ago. You really think Lewis Dunk will go on strike if we decide to sell him in July rather than in January?

Where have I mentioned that? If someone comes in with a 30 mill bid, a top six side, he will ask to move, quite simply. The club won't stand in his way. This is about England and getting in the summer squad. He will be 29 come the next WC, so this may be one of two opportunities in his career. As I said, the club would not stand in his way.

 

[beefypigeon]

As others have said, I can't imagine the club will want to sell him in January, but it may be that they have little option.

What if we have at least 25 points come January? Potentially only another 10-15 points required to stay in the league, and will losing Dunk really prevent us from picking up these points? We could get a decent replacement in for a fraction of the cost and we already have two good back up options.

I think the key thing here is not the salary, but the World Cup. If the salary is the main reason for him wanting to leave, if his head is indeed turned by the speculation, then I'm sure he could wait until the summer and finish the season with us. If he feels that he'll increase his chances of making the world cup squad by moving to a top 6 team then that's a different story, and I would be very surprised if the club were to prevent him from doing so given the loyalty he has shown us over the years despite interest from other clubs.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Not good to lose a 'home grown' player from the 25 man squad as we are just 1 above the lower limit I think.

Krul !
Rosenior
Dunk
Duffy !
Goldson
Stephens
Sidwell
March
Baldock

( Murray doesn't qualify ! )


8 is the minimum needed.

 

[Perry Milkins]

How much were Liverpool offering for Van Dijk. Should the figure be comparable?

 

[Bozza]

As others have said, I can't imagine the club will want to sell him in January, but it may be that they have little option.

What if we have at least 25 points come January? Potentially only another 10-15 points required to stay in the league, and will losing Dunk really prevent us from picking up these points? We could get a decent replacement in for a fraction of the cost and we already have two good back up options.

I think the key thing here is not the salary, but the World Cup. If the salary is the main reason for him wanting to leave, if his head is indeed turned by the speculation, then I'm sure he could wait until the summer and finish the season with us. If he feels that he'll increase his chances of making the world cup squad by moving to a top 6 team then that's a different story, and I would be very surprised if the club were to prevent him from doing so given the loyalty he has shown us over the years despite interest from other clubs.

There would be a trio of attractions, wouldn't there?

- Salary - a significant, and potentially life-changing, pay rise.
- Playing for one of the big boys in the world's most famous league.
- A chance of forcing his way into the World Cup squad. Realistically he has 2 chances of that now in his career.

 

[Bold Seagull]

But it's about the player not the club, do you not get it?

Dunk just signed a long contract, so it is very much about what the club wish to do. After certain decisions on players that left in the early years of TB's tenure, we've seen an increasingly emboldened owner prepared to stand firm on contracts he believes will ultimately benefit the club.

If Hughton tells TB that Dunk is the difference between us staying up or not, then I don't think Dunk is going anywhere ahead of the summer. If on the other hand, Hughton says that the £40m could secure an adequate replacement, a striker plus maybe another player and this will give us our best chance, then he may well go. It will be the club first though, not sure if you get that or not?

 

[Sussex Nomad]

There would be a trio of attractions, wouldn't there?

- Salary - a significant, and potentially life-changing, pay rise.
- Playing for one of the big boys in the world's most famous league.
- A chance of forcing his way into the World Cup squad. Realistically he has 2 chances of that now in his career.

And all those reasons show ambition.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Dunk just signed a long contract, so it is very much about what the club wish to do. After certain decisions on players that left in the early years of TB's tenure, we've seen an increasingly emboldened owner prepared to stand firm on contracts he believes will ultimately benefit the club.

If Hughton tells TB that Dunk is the difference between us staying up or not, then I don't think Dunk is going anywhere ahead of the summer. If on the other hand, Hughton says that the £40m could secure an adequate replacement, a striker plus maybe another player and this will give us our best chance, then he may well go. It will be the club first though, not sure if you get that or not?

Clever ending to your synopsis however you are not taking Dunk into your consideration, it's just club, club, club. Contracts mean nothing, it just gives you better bargaining power when selling. If a player is unhappy and puts in a transfer request, there is very little you can do about it. I know we had similar with Stephens and remained steadfast, he got his wish, he's a Prem player. But this isn't about the Prem, it's about England and a WC in the summer. Dunky is so close he can smell it and if that means moving to a top six club he will do it and the club will let him go with their best wishes.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Where have I mentioned that? If someone comes in with a 30 mill bid, a top six side, he will ask to move, quite simply. The club won't stand in his way. This is about England and getting in the summer squad. He will be 29 come the next WC, so this may be one of two opportunities in his career. As I said, the club would not stand in his way.

Why won't we stand in his way? We did for Stephens last year. We did for Bridcutt four years ago. Heck we did for Zamora 14 years ago. We haven't sold anyone we didn't want to lose since Ulloa. Tony Bloom isn't some passive bloke that just rolls over to get his tummy tickled - or if he is, he'll really disappoint me.

But fair play if that's what you think we should do, I just hope that if Lewis Dunk does get to the World Cup with Arsenal whilst we get relegated, you'll be happy to come on here and say that the club made the right decision.


BTW, this idea that he'll just walk into the England squad for the WC, at the very best he will still be behind Stones, Jones, Cahill, Macguire, Smalling and Gomez.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

But fair play if that's what you think we should do, I just hope that if Lewis Dunk does get to the World Cup with Arsenal whilst we get relegated, you'll be happy to come on here and say that the club made the right decision.

Utter madness of a reply.

 

[spring hall convert]

Who's going to offer to drive him to Arsenal?

good work sir.

 

[symyjym]

Makes sense for Arsenal. They need a better mix of foreign and English players and if Wenger is looking at rebuilding for the future then Dunk is a good place to start. I wouldn’t begrudge him going there for that sort of money and Wenger is a football purest.