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Druv







*Gullsworth*

My Hair is like his hair
Jan 20, 2006
9,351
West...West.......WEST SUSSEX
Also other Sussex/ Southern sayings.....



...........See you somewhen.
............Somewhen else.
 




Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,895
Guiseley
You are correct. And unlike all those ignorant ' would of, should of' twats who HATE it when their grammar or spelling is corrected I am grateful to you for correcting me.

Thank you. I did hesitate, but this is a thread about language.
 










'All folks as come to Sussex
Must follow Sussex ways,
And when they've larned to know us well
There's no place else they'd wish to dwell
In all their blessed days.
There ant no place like Sussex
Until you goos Above,
For Sussex will be Sussex,
And Sussex wunt be druv'.
 




A longer version ...

"Sussex Wun't be Druv"
by W Victor Cook


"Some folks as come to Sussex,
They reckons as they know -
A durn sight better what to do
Than simple folks, like me and you,
Could possibly suppose.

But them as comes to Sussex,
They mustn't push and shove,
For Sussex will be Sussex,
And Sussex wun't be druv!

Mus Wilfred come to Sussex,
Us heaved a stone at he,
Because he reckoned he could teach
Our Sussex fishers how to reach
The fishes in the sea.

But when he dwelt among us,
Us gave un land and luv,
For Sussex will be Sussex,
And Sussex wun't be druv!

All folks as come to Sussex
Must follow Sussex ways -
And when they've larned to know us well,
There's no place else they'll wish to dwell
In all their blessed days -

There ant no place like Sussex,
Until ye goos above,
For Sussex will be Sussex,
And Sussex wun't be druv!"
 


Shuggie

Well-known member
Sep 19, 2003
685
East Sussex coast
Not kust Uckfield - we walked up the twitten from Goldstone Crescent (cheap end) to Hove Grammar every day. It's between Goldstone Way and Nevill Road if memory serves and comes out just opp the Nevill.

Trug ... there's anuvver Sussex word innit.
 


Shuggie

Well-known member
Sep 19, 2003
685
East Sussex coast
Some sources for "druv" ...

  • Sussex has always maintained an obstinate identity symbolised by the pig symbol and the motto 'won't be druv' [The Companion to British History, Routledge]
  • Sussex won't be druv - local proverbial saying, early 20th century; asserting that people from the English county of Sussex have minds of their own, and cannot be forced against their will (druv is a dialect version of drove, meaning driven). [The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable]

But when oh when did Martlets get feet? I always had a thing about legless birds ... what happened?
 




Big G

New member
Dec 14, 2005
1,086
Brighton
The problem is......I'm from Sussex, never heard of it untill now. The Northern/Other slang terms are well known all over the country....'Twittern' etc

I very much doubt anyone anywhere will have any idea what it means and to be honest.......sounds like a 'chav' word!
 




Worthingite

Sexy Pete... :D
Sep 16, 2011
4,966
Chesterfield
how is druv pronounced?

Is it droove or druhv (if this makes ANY sense whatsoever?!?)
 




But when oh when did Martlets get feet? I always had a thing about legless birds ... what happened?

It happened when pig-ignorant folk achieved ascendancy. The inability of the martlet to land symbolizes the constant quest for knowledge, learning, and adventure. This quest has now been officially abandoned. Today we prefer to watch TV.
 




Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
i take it the banner slogan is designed to communicate. It would be better to use words that are more widely and readily understood in 2012.
 






It would be better to use words that are more widely and readily understood in 2012.
I'm not a native of Sussex and I might be more conscious of distinctive forms of dialect precisely because of this (and the fact that my family comes from Tyneside, where respect for dialect is inculcated into everyone at a very early age), but I've known the word "druv" (as a uniquely Sussex word) for YEARS.

The language is richer because words like this survive.
 


Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
I'm not a native of Sussex and I might be more conscious of distinctive forms of dialect precisely because of this (and the fact that my family comes from Tyneside, where respect for dialect is inculcated into everyone at a very early age), but I've known the word "druv" (as a uniquely Sussex word) for YEARS.

The language is richer because words like this survive.

I don't doubt that the language is richer because regional words survive. I would add that love of the English language in all its guises is worthwhile. However, that is a different, possibly competing, agenda from the task of running an immediately impactful slogan that is easily got by fans and players alike in the heat of the moment of a match. I respect your knowledge of the word, yet I highly doubt whether that is widely shared amongst the thousands of Albion fans attending the game. There is an argument that putting 'We wunt be druv' on a banner will inspire people to look it up, which some may do, but that intellectual pursuit is different from the here-and-now task of having a slogan that will immediately inspire.
 


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