[News] Drink driving - why?

[el punal]

Pretty strict but still not enough of a deterrent. Our older generation still have a really shitty attitude to it too, many see no problems with 2 big glasses or wine or a few pints and then driving back from a country pub. There really is no excuse for it and baffling that many don't appreciate how reckless it is.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement to say that the older generation have a shitty attitude to drink driving. What you should be saying is that certain elements of EVERY generation have a shitty attitude. It comes down to totally selfish and ignorant individuals who don't give a monkey's and think they're alright to drive to regardless of how much they've consumed.

 

[half time scores]

What does "zero drinking" actually mean?

Prohibition of alcohol.
I am not advocating that this should be implemented, we all know what happened in the USA when they tried it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

When we buy alcohol we can be sure that drinking in moderation will not kill us as it is a monitored industry

This is the same situation as our 'War on drugs' which indecently has been going on for over 100 years which we are still winning according to the government.

 

[Biker-Marty]

Having just been onto Twatter to have a look, it seems like there are HUNDREDS of people who are using that as an excuse on his behalf...

TBH honest, think this is a poor excuse.

As a sufferer of Mental Health Issues, myself. I would, not expect to be treated differently, just because I was caught Drink Driving over the limit (Not something I actually Do BTW)
If this was the case, suddenly every one stopped for this offence, would suddenly claim to suffer from a mental issue, just to avoid a ban/fine.

 

[BensGrandad]

I do not know the stats on this but would think that the worst offenders are the 50- 65 age group as we have always done it and I have been driving 40 years syndrome.

 

[essbee1]

If you think a car in front is a drink-driver then you need to call the police there and then. It could save a life.

I could never, ever drink and drive. Not a drop. The potential effects on so many people are so huge if something happened. I would happily pay for someone
to get a taxi than see them risk it. Just stupidity and selfishness.

 

[happypig]

I do not know the stats on this but would think that the worst offenders are the 50- 65 age group as we have always done it and I have been driving 40 years syndrome.

As I posted previously, drink driving is almost unique in that the demographics are very widely spread across age/gender/wealth. You're just as likely to see a 20 year old woman as a retired man.
Have a google for "Court results excess alcohol"

Incidentally, the highest reading I ever encountered was a woman stopped on a sunday afternoon in Hailsham who had blown 175 in breath - that's over 5 times the legal limit. She claimed to have had a "couple of small glasses of wine"

 

[The Gem]

Are you seriously comparing someone having a drink the day before, not realising they could still be over the limit as the same as killing someone when driving?

Don't look for excuses take responsibility, if you know you are driving the next day don't drink the night before.

 

[BensGrandad]

I would never drink and drive but I must admit in the past I would have been liable to have failed a breathalyser the next day. I wonder how many people are fall into that category without fully realising they are still over the limit..

 

[Triggaaar]

Quite the opposite. As with alcohol consumption the danger increases as speed (or alcohol level) increases. The government have decreed that there is a limit above which you are breaking the law. Your assertion was that if you're not over the limit you're safe; I disagree.

I see no evidence to show that it's dangerous to drive when you've had a very small amount of alcohol, that's what I'm saying. I don't know what 34.9mg/100ml is like as I don't know how much alcohol that is for me, or how that would affect other people. I'm not arguing for the present limit, I'm just arguing that the limit shouldn't be zero.

You might not, but you would be wrong.

That's nonsense and you've got nothing to show otherwise.

If you went somewhere with no drink drive laws (like Burkina Faso for example) would you be able to drive perfectly after 2 drinks ? Or three ? Or 10 ? Of course not, the affect is cumulative.

So your argument is that because 10 pints of beer make me incapable of driving properly, then 1 teaspoon of beer would also negatively impact my ability to drive. That's complete nonsense based on no evidence whatsoever.

If you cannot see that you are either being deliberately obtuse or deliberately argumentative.

Pot kettle.

 

[BensGrandad]

Don't look for excuses take responsibility, if you know you are driving the next day don't drink the night before.

When the next day are you able to say we would be ok. Even the experts cannot say that categorically.

 

[The Gem]

When the next day are you able to say we would be ok. Even the experts cannot say that categorically.

Don't drink the night before simples.

 

[The Gem]

I see no evidence to show that it's dangerous to drive when you've had a very small amount of alcohol, that's what I'm saying. I don't know what 34.9mg/100ml is like as I don't know how much alcohol that is for me, or how that would affect other people. I'm not arguing for the present limit, I'm just arguing that the limit shouldn't be zero.

That's nonsense and you've got nothing to show otherwise.

So your argument is that because 10 pints of beer make me incapable of driving properly, then 1 teaspoon of beer would also negatively impact my ability to drive. That's complete nonsense based on no evidence whatsoever.
Pot kettle.

Off topic, when you reply like this does it count as 4 posts or 1?

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Don't look for excuses take responsibility, if you know you are driving the next day don't drink the night before.

"That really was a tough week Francis. Fancy a quick Friday night pint?"
"Sorry, Hugh, I've got to pick up the kids at 8pm tomorrow so better not"

 

[The Gem]

"That really was a tough week Francis. Fancy a quick Friday night pint?"
"Sorry, Hugh, I've got to pick up the kids at 8pm tomorrow so better not"

This all day long, not sure if you were taking the p*ss but its correct.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

This all day long, not sure if you were taking the p*ss but its correct.

Well no, it's obviously not.

It's really quite silly.

That's arguably 26 hours after the 1 drink was consumed.

 

[Notters]

"That really was a tough week Francis. Fancy a quick Friday night pint?"
"Sorry, Hugh, I've got to pick up the kids at 8pm tomorrow so better not"

Exactly my point. Could you be certain that there was absolutely zero alcohol in your system after a couple of pints (and I do mean just a couple) the night before?

 

[BensGrandad]

This all day long, not sure if you were taking the p*ss but its correct.

Are you a taxi driver touting for business? I wonder how many people drink at The Amex on a Saturday and then drive on Sunday afternoon or drive to work Monday after a Sunday game.

 

[Triggaaar]

Off

What's off?

topic

Ah.

when you reply

Yes?

like this

Like what?

does it

Who is it?

count

Who's counting?

as 4 posts or 1?

1.

 

[Triggaaar]

Exactly my point. Could you be certain that there was absolutely zero alcohol in your system after a couple of pints (and I do mean just a couple) the night before?

I thought this zero tolerance was supposed to make things less ambiguous.

 

[BensGrandad]

I thought this zero tolerance was supposed to make things less ambiguous.

It is straight after but nothing can be done about the next day other than do not drive for 36 hours which for most is impractical.