This is one of the main reasons I now do fell running. Even going for a 20-minute jog around the residential streets (and if dark, lit up like a Christmas tree with reflective clothing and lights) I still always get one or two people who don't see me and attempt to run me over. You don't get that up on the moors.
[Travel] Drink driver jailed after killing a pedestrian
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Blame the culture - even this board has glasses of beer emojis for celebration. Any society that has alcohol for celebrations, births, deaths, marriages, leaving work - is destined for things like this. It's like going crazy for someone having an STD when there are whorehouses on every street corner.
How do we campaign to have the sentence increased to 50 years?
Have you posted on the wrong thread?
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All the time 6 deaths a week are treated as acceptable there's nothing to be done.
Accidents are quite different to what that person did.
St Leonards Seagull
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This is local to me, the muppet stalled for 2 years pleading not guilty, putting the families through hell and then changed his plea to guilty the day before the trial was due to begin.
He also destroyed his dash cam, which was in his vehicle at the time.
Absolute oxygen thief.
Weststander
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So out in say 6 years?
These particular offences, for so many reasons, are half way between murder and manslaughter to me.
Hopefully Parliament looks at this soon. It needs another ratcheting up, and some.
Pleading guilty (when that occurs) shouldn't be a big factor in sentencing, in these particular taking of lives. It's not in murder sentencing. At most, making a small difference.
Weststander
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I always like to see what the killing wknr looks like.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/new...ews/child-killer-jack-hart-swaggering-8101893
Turns out he's got an aggressive and defiant attitude too.
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His 6 previous speeding offences should have been taken into consideration.
The man wasn't going to change his ways voluntarily.
Weststander
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When you cycle alone, how close to the kerb/gutter do you cycle?
I’m aware of the modern thinking from Boardman et al, now enshrined in the Highway Code, about making yourself more visible, owning the road, on rural lanes cycle two abreast.
I instinctively do the opposite of staying very left.
The good guys in Rayment Bikes advise to not do as I do, for two reasons. Own the road and you’ll also not collect in your tyres builders screws and nails which have been washed into the gully/gutter.
attila
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I cycle about 80 miles a week and drive about 10,000 miles a year so see it from both sides. There are absolute idiots in both camps - drivers who see it as a personal affront that i am on a bicycle and cyclists who go through red lights, behave like entitled prats and don't actually think about their own vulnerability.
dsr-burnley
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It's time they looked at a driving licence in the same way as they look at gun licences. If someone has a gun licence and uses the gun, drunkenly, recklessly, or deliberately, to kill someone, then they will never again have a gun licence. Why should people who are clearly unfit to drive, get a driving licence?
Most of the cases on this thread should be given a lifetime driving ban. no concessions, and if they are ever caught behind the wheel of a car they go to jail.
I live on a busy, main street with 2 lanes of traffic in each direction. Just today I've seen the aftermath of a car crash where one guy jumped a red light. Two cars with very smashed up front ends. Drivers always jump the lights there, and I'm always very careful when I'm crossing the street. Not that this is any different to the idiot drivers at every other major junction in the city.
Then this evening, on the same busy street, I was waiting to cross the road and this cyclist comes past in dark clothes and no lights at all. I do not understand why anyone would ride a bike at night without lights, especially in a busy city. Yet I see it multiple times a week.
As I type this, a police car just pulled over a car literally across the road from my house. I assume it jumped the lights.
Interesting stat I saw today.
So people not wearing seatbelts are responsible for many times as many deaths as cyclists... and this doesn't even account for those who kill people who are wearing seatbelts by flying across a car into them.
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So people not wearing seatbelts are responsible for many times as many deaths as cyclists... and this doesn't even account for those who kill people who are wearing seatbelts by flying across a car into them.
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Who is claiming 6 deaths a week are acceptable? 2000, there were 3409 road deaths and in 2019 there were 1752. Since 2004 there has been a steady decline. Hopefully this will continue but the pandemic has skewered stats for the moment.
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Killer driver Alexander McKellar caught after taking girlfriend to peat bog grave where he had buried charity cyclist Tony Parsons
Alexander McKellar struck Tony Parsons with a car in September 2017. Mr Parsons' body was eventually recovered in January 2021.
news.sky.com
This is something else.
Weststander
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Another life slain, this time due to a drug driver. The killer has a smug, punchable face. The weapon, a Corsa.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr7wxnxr2qo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr7wxnxr2qo
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Possibly as many as 150 lives have been taken by automobiles in the time between the previous 2 posts.