[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Greg Bobkin]

Fox News

And Newsmaxxxxxxxxxx

 

[loz]

These days, if you say you're an extreme centrist, you get arrested and thrown in jail... and then deported back to where you came from.


No, where you ACTUALLY came from.

When did that come in?

 

[Eeyore]

You don't spend almost 10 years as a Tory MP if you don't lean to the right.

Rory Stewart leaned to left. He wasn't a modern Tory, he was very one nation. He even defended Socialism. He got on because he was very competent and capable.

 

[loz]

While on talking about pod casts, Electrol disfunction has Ruth Davison on the former Scottish Tory leader,when listening to her and Rory Stewart you realise how far right the present Tory party are…..I mean they threw Nicholeas Soames out of the party who was Churchills grandson.

 

[Bakero]

Rory Stewart leaned to left. He wasn't a modern Tory, he was very one nation. He even defended Socialism. He got on because he was very competent and capable.

Leaned to the left of the Tories, you mean? His politics has always been right of centre

 

[BiffyBoy100]

You're confusing me with another poster. I just agreed that Rory Stewart is right-leaning, which he obviously is. I agree that both he and Campbell are centrists

You can't really be right-leaning and a centrist can you?

 

[BiffyBoy100]

One thing I find interesting about Trump is the way he's perceived globally. Everyone I've spoken to from India and China tends to view him quite favorably (I was surprised), which aligns with broader data from those countries. Yet, ironically, these nations were significantly more impacted by his policies than, say, the UK.

I live in a very blue state, where the prevailing attitude toward him is much closer to that of Europe - very negative. It’s interesting how perspectives on him vary so dramatically depending on geography and political context. Also why some of the countries most affected by his tariffs and policies still see him in such a positive light.

 

[Driver8]

Quite, he denied being connected to. So its not really accurate to suggest voters knew all this was coming.

You mean some people actually believe a word he says?

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

It is a coup.

It's very difficult to stop when the sitting president is on the side of those conducting it.

Would it be good or bad for the US if they assassinated those conducting the coup?

I don't normally go in for that sort of thing but 'needs must' and all that.

 

[Bakero]

You can't really be right-leaning and a centrist can you?

That's exactly how I interpret "leaning". Hes not a rabid right winger, not is Campbell a hardcore leftist. They both lean a certain way though

 

[Bakero]

One thing I find interesting about Trump is the way he's perceived globally. Everyone I've spoken to from India and China tends to view him quite favorably (I was surprised), which aligns with broader data from those countries. Yet, ironically, these nations were significantly more impacted by his policies than, say, the UK.

I live in a very blue state, where the prevailing attitude toward him is much closer to that of Europe - very negative. It’s interesting how perspectives on him vary so dramatically depending on geography and political context. Also why some of the countries most affected by his tariffs and policies still see him in such a positive light.

In my work, I interact with people from around the world and am often surprised by foreign perspectives. Foreign journalists must have a hell of a job translating Trump tbf

 

[5Ways Gull]

That's exactly how I interpret "leaning". Hes not a rabid right winger, not is Campbell a hardcore leftist. They both lean a certain way though

Bring back David Owen. My favourite politician ever. If politicians were footballers he'd be Peter Ward.

 

[Bakero]

Bring back David Owen. My favourite politician ever. If politicians were footballers he'd be Peter Ward.

Definitely the better of the two Davids

 

[vegster]

I think that Europe has to accept that Trump's US is going to be too unreliable to be a partner in defence and trade policies. The UK needs to align closer with Europe on defence and trade and dismantle/ withdraw previous agreements with the US.

I for one will take no lectures from a lying criminal and his ignorant lap dog James Vance.

 

[BadFish]

You mean some people actually believe a word he says?

yeah, there seems to be a lot of people saying that he os doing exactly that he said he would. In fact the exchange i was responding to started with a poster saying it.

 

[Binney on acid]

In a way it's good that after weeks of speculation, it has been confirmed that Europe can no longer depend on The States to subside its defence. We're on our own, and get used to it, we're at war with Mr Genocide's regime. The orange one is only interested in negotiating on real estate that is enriched with precious minerals. I hope that Macron was serious about creating a European army, 'cos we're gonna need it. Thank god Kaja Kallas has become more influential on the European stage, after being the Estonian prime minister. I'm in awe of this woman. She represents the voice of reason.
JFC ! We're 1 nil up against Chelski and Hove Albion, and I'm sitting in front of my computer, enjoying the bottle of port that my girlfriend gave me last Christmas.

 

[Blue3]

The Rest is Politics that well balanced insightful political podcast

Rory Stewart has a wealth of real world experience and Alaster Campbell is the other one

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Just read about the Munich meeting, the arrogance and double standards of Vance is quite breathtaking.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Amazing to think that JD Vance may be an even bigger c*** than Trump.

 

[Cordwainer]

Just read about the Munich meeting, the arrogance and double standards of Vance is quite breathtaking.

Extraordinary wasn’t it. Bangs on about free speech in Europe and moans about Greta! Also equates her with Musk (said with humour? Like he’d know what that is)