Does anyone here think Trump is a safe bet for Pres?

[Stat Brother]

This is an interesting report. Four polling organisations work with exactly the same raw data and come up very different results.

While this is nominally about Trump v Clinton, it does give some insight in how pollsters got things so wrong in this country. If there's a wide discrepancy on the data, before we start talking about sampling and whether questions are neutral, it's a wonder that polls aren't even further apart

I think it's very easy to draw a line from close in the polls to better ratings for cable news networks.

It really isn't in Fox, CNN etc best interest to predict a landslide victory, for anybody, certainly not in September.

 

[maltaseagull]

Not really, given that Clinton is a huge warmonger.

Every US president since Clinton has been so what's new?

Don't really see Trump being a peacemaker.

 

[happypig]

Will Trump win ? Never underestimate the power of a large number of stupid people.

 

[BrianWade4]

He will win but be a disaster

There are enough angry and stupid people to carry him home

Hilary is weak oppo

 

[bonniville]

i think he will do ok

 

[Insel affe]

Hillary Clinton 4/7
Donald Trump 6/4

Bookies are usually right

 

[Mental Lental]

I think he'll win, but he'll have the honour of being the first ever President to be successfully impeached.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I think he'll win, but he'll have the honour of being the first ever President to be successfully impeached.

If Hilary can avoid it anyone can.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

We basically find ourselves in a position where every political leader or potential leader in every country bar Canada and Germany is a dickhead. Doesn't bode well for humanity.


Sent from my iPhone in a non-Calde world :-(

Trudeau is a complete and utter wanker. Or dickhead as you put it.

 

[cheshunt seagull]

Worryingly I think he has a lot of momentum right now and could well win it. A combination of terrorist activity, Hilary's health and anger from the black community against the existing authority structures could create a perfect set of circumstances for him. Being the continuity option these days is far from a guarantee of success. A simple narrative based on scapegoats and silver bullet solutions is attractive to many desperate people although I am utterly mystified as to how people can see Trump as an anti-establishment option.

 

[sir albion]

Worryingly I think he has a lot of momentum right now and could well win it. A combination of terrorist activity, Hilary's health and anger from the black community against the existing authority structures could create a perfect set of circumstances for him. Being the continuity option these days is far from a guarantee of success. A simple narrative based on scapegoats and silver bullet solutions is attractive to many desperate people although I am utterly mystified as to how people can see Trump as an anti-establishment option.

Yep....by voting for Hilary you're voting for the same old shite and the USA needs big changes and someone with balls to do it.

 

[Stat Brother]

Yep....by voting for Hilary you're voting for the same old shite and the USA needs big changes and someone with balls to do it.

But I'm not sure a homophobic racist misogynist is the way forward.

 

[sir albion]

But I'm not sure a homophobic racist misogynist is the way forward.

Nobody's perfect but I'd suspect the weird and wonderful world of the USA has many people that agree with him in many ways although people will also look past that as gibberish talk.

 

[Stat Brother]

Nobody's perfect but I'd suspect the weird and wonderful world of the USA has many people that agree with him in many ways although people will also look past that as gibberish talk.

There's millions of Americans that agree with him, not to mention those that would rather vote for mass extinction than Hillary.
In fairness I'd imagine that Venn diagram has a substantial middle section.

The problems arise from the fact that those voters are fully represented.
Whereas many voter registration laws have been specifically designed to keep poor, coloured voters out of the poling both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

 

[cheshunt seagull]

Yep....by voting for Hilary you're voting for the same old shite and the USA needs big changes and someone with balls to do it.

Interesting how ignorance, narcissism, prejudice, rudeness and egotism can be viewed as equating to balls. Someone like Mandela who could be viewed as the antithesis of Trump in style and personality would make Trump's genital arrangements look like a sparrow's gonads.

No fan of Hilary and I think change is needed but just because someone can turn politics into a strip cartoon means they can get votes but not that they have the ability to deliver anything.

 

[Albion my Albion]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...omes-correctly/?wpisrc=nl_wemost-draw5&wpmm=1

 

[Albion my Albion]

I think he'll win, but he'll have the honour of being the first ever President to be successfully impeached.

This was explained to me yesterday. Bill Clinton was successfully impeached. The vote at his impeachment was to keep him in office. Taking a vote on whether to throw out a president is an impeachment.

 

[aolstudios]

Interesting how ignorance, narcissism, prejudice, rudeness and egotism can be viewed as equating to balls. Someone like Mandela who could be viewed as the antithesis of Trump in style and personality would make Trump's genital arrangements look like a sparrow's gonads.

No fan of Hilary and I think change is needed but just because someone can turn politics into a strip cartoon means they can get votes but not that they have the ability to deliver anything.

Spot. The ****. On

 

[The Rivet]

It is still very possible that Trump can win. The debates will be interesting. Politics is fun right now isn't it? Poor America, what a choice some say!

 

[Mental Lental]

This was explained to me yesterday. Bill Clinton was successfully impeached. The vote at his impeachment was to keep him in office. Taking a vote on whether to throw out a president is an impeachment.

Clinton was found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice by the House of Representatives but then acquitted by the Senate. The impeachment needs to go through both houses. Nixon would have been inevitably impeached but he resigned rather than suffer the indignity of being the first ever successfully impeached president. There hasn't been a president that has been "successfully" impeached, but Trump strikes me as the kind of guy that would ride an impeachment all the way to the end.