[Other Sport] Do we expect too much of the rich?

[crodonilson]

 

[Han Solo]

Yes I expect them to be eaten by the poor but it never happens.

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

If you start with rock bottom expectations you will be not far out.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Yes

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Those with little, usually want more.
Those with lots, usually want to keep it.
Human nature in'it?

I give a little to those worse off than me, but only where they aren't able to better themselves due to e.g. being disabled by unavoidable circumstances. I give to some charities and I'm a volunteer guide dog fosterer. But I wouldn't give money to a beggar without understanding how they got into their predicament.

I don't expect the rich to give to the poor, but it's nice when they do (I'm not rich BTW).

 

[METALMICKY]

Do you perhaps want so rephrase the thread title so we know precisely what you want to debate?

 

[backson]

Noblesse oblige and all that...

 

[A mex eyecan]

what are you classing as rich?

 

[KZNSeagull]

The only expectation I have on the rich is that they pay the tax that they are supposed to, irrespective of the amount. There was a report this morning that the richest 60 people in this country paid something like £3bn in income tax last year. If that is the correct amount that they should have paid then all's good.

Amount UK's richest pay in income tax revealed

There is some concern tax rises in the Budget could prompt an exit of the super-rich, hurting UK finances.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Do the rich expect too much of the poor?

It wasn’t that long ago that we worked out who the ‘essential’ workers in our society were.

Hedge fund managers and investment bankers would quickly see their castles in the clouds tumble without the work of those poorer propping them up.

 

[abc]

what are you classing as rich?

To most people rich means someone who has more than they do. Hence the regular mantra of ‘tax the rich’ which's actually means ‘don’t tax me, just who anyone earns more than me’.

 

[abc]

The only expectation I have on the rich is that they pay the tax that they are supposed to, irrespective of the amount. There was a report this morning that the richest 60 people in this country paid something like £3bn in income tax last year. If that is the correct amount that they should have paid then all's good.

Amount UK's richest pay in income tax revealed

There is some concern tax rises in the Budget could prompt an exit of the super-rich, hurting UK finances.

www.bbc.co.uk

I think that’s a very fair point. Tax mitigation means minimising one’s tax within the rules. If that enables the super rich to pay less tax than the HMRC would like, then change the rules. Tax avoidance, however, is illegal and the rules should be enforced.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

I think that’s a very fair point. Tax mitigation means minimising one’s tax within the rules. If that enables the super rich to pay less tax than the HMRC would like, then change the rules. Tax avoidance, however, is illegal and the rules should be enforced.

Tax avoidance isn’t illegal, Tax evasion is.

 

[chip]

What do you think is rich?

 

[abc]

Tax avoidance isn’t illegal, Tax evasion is.

Sorry, quite right

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Are you having an existential crisis, @crodonilson ?

No need to feel guilty about your wealth and dilettante lifestyle. It is what it is

 

[Mustafa II]

Time for a wealth tax.

Nobody should be worth 8 figures or more and be subjected to more or less the same taxes as the rest of us.

Leave high earners alone though (£100k-£200kers), as they provide crucial skills in society and the economy and they already pay enough tax.

 

[abc]

Time for a wealth tax.

Nobody should be worth 8 figures or more and be subjected to more or less the same taxes as the rest of us.

I don’t () but why? They pay far more tax than us assuming they pay what they should. What’s the problem apart from envy?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I think that’s a very fair point. Tax mitigation means minimising one’s tax within the rules. If that enables the super rich to pay less tax than the HMRC would like, then change the rules. Tax avoidance, however, is illegal and the rules should be enforced.

I think you mean tax evasion as tax avoidance is legal

Edit - already covered

 

[Guinness Boy]

Yes I expect them to be eaten by the poor but it never happens.

Ah, so when you said you wanted to eat human flesh, what you really meant is “I want to be rich”.