[Football] Do we continue to boo Cucurella tonight?

[GJN1]

Does the title of the thread apply to tonight too? If so, I'm in.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Does the title of the thread apply to tonight too? If so, I'm in.

Yep: there's still MOTD.

And MOTD2 tomorrow night.

 

[Winker]

Leaving the ground passed a little kid (probably around 4-5 years old) singing 'all that money and you're still shit' with a big smile on his face. Imagine he got a 'don't sing that in front of your mum when you get home '

Lucky he wasn't singing 'Marc Cucurella you know you're a ****'

 

[Cotton Socks]

The very obscene chanting from the North Stand was unacceptable with loads of children present

It is possible to take your kids to a football match, tell them they may hear some very bad language & say that if you hear them repeat it, you'll wash their mouth out with soap & water!
I think it was only last year when I heard my Jnr call someone a b*stard over Xbox live. He's 17, he got an 'oi, language' & then I think I was just shocked that the word is still used. Not even a 'you f**king b*stard', just 'b*astrd' & he got a telling off.
He's been to a lot of games, I taught him to put his finger to his lips and say 'You're 'shuush' ahhhh, instead of 'sh*t' when the oppo goalie is kicking it when he was young. He doesn't swear in front of me & by the amount of time he spends on the Xbox & I've only heard him swear once, I wouldn't say that hearing rude words at a match has any influence whatsoever.
Language evolves 'Oh for f*cks sake' is as common as saying 'Oh blo*dy hell'. There's probably a word I don't know about that's as offensive to the younger generation as c**t is to the older one. Maybe it's 'b*stard' that is the most offensive thing the yoofs say now.
Doesn't change the fact that I don't want them to swear & I don't think they do in general conversation. I can see my Jnr laughing at the foul language from the North Stand but I can't see him joining in especially as he was in the family stand.
If I was there & in the North stand I wouldn't have joined in, but I still would've laughed & smirked, as I did at home!I
I think most of my swearing is on here actually but my kids only follow NSC on Insta (thank f**k).

 

[Eeyore]

It is possible to take your kids to a football match, tell them they may hear some very bad language & say that if you hear them repeat it, you'll wash their mouth out with soap & water!
I think it was only last year when I heard my Jnr call someone a b*stard over Xbox live. He's 17, he got an 'oi, language' & then I think I was just shocked that the word is still used. Not even a 'you f**king b*stard', just 'b*astrd' & he got a telling off.
He's been to a lot of games, I taught him to put his finger to his lips and say 'You're 'shuush' ahhhh, instead of 'sh*t' when the oppo goalie is kicking it when he was young. He doesn't swear in front of me & by the amount of time he spends on the Xbox & I've only heard him swear once, I wouldn't say that hearing rude words at a match has any influence whatsoever.
Language evolves 'Oh for f*cks sake' is as common as saying 'Oh blo*dy hell'. There's probably a word I don't know about that's as offensive to the younger generation as c**t is to the older one. Maybe it's 'b*stard' that is the most offensive thing the yoofs say now.
Doesn't change the fact that I don't want them to swear & I don't think they do in general conversation. I can see my Jnr laughing at the foul language from the North Stand but I can't see him joining in especially as he was in the family stand.
If I was there & in the North stand I wouldn't have joined in, but I still would've laughed & smirked, as I did at home!I
I think most of my swearing is on here actually but my kids only follow NSC on Insta (thank f**k).

Kids don't like hypocrisy, and they see a lot of it. I have no problem with them swearing, unless it's done for effect.

I was always taught not to swear and my parents did it little. Yet I have an absolute potty mouth. It's funny, because it seems to cause adults around me to swear more.

I remember one incident, when I was 13, when I was bowled out in a cricket match, turned and went 'f***'. My Mum, a very religious woman, but of the world, stood there and laughed. Probably because it just came out that way. No harm done. They're just words in the end. Meaningless, unless they have toxic meaning attached.

I like the word f***k. It's the most adaptable in the English language.

 

[pigmanovich]

The very obscene chanting from the North Stand was unacceptable with loads of children present

Not sure where Chelsea’s players were supposed to go

 

[Greg Bobkin]

One of my favourite moments of the evening was when Maresca send his team out about 5 mins early for the second half.

And while they were waiting for the Albion to emerge, Chelsea were kicking a ball to each other to keep warm and the East Stand were booing and giving Cucurella shit each time he touched the ball. Meanwhile the groundsmen carried on forking the pitch around them.

I bet Chelsea couldn't get on their coach quick enough after the game finished.

Contrary to popular belief (and/or very lazy stereotypes), we can make quite a bit of noise in the family stand. Especially when there's a Poundland Sideshow Bob right in front of us to Boooooo at every opportunity.

I'm happy/ashamed to say there was plenty of family non-friendly language being used throughout

 

[Greg Bobkin]

The booing of Cucarella was great - on the tv it also sounded like some of the crowd were booing Caicedo as well...was he getting the love too?

I boooooooooed them all. Cucu, Caicedo, the fella that was at Palace for a bit, Gusto, Colwill, Palmer - they all had a bit of it

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I thought it was more cheers- at him, not for him- when he was subbed.

Edit: already mentioned!

 

[GT49er]

It is possible to take your kids to a football match, tell them they may hear some very bad language & say that if you hear them repeat it, you'll wash their mouth out with soap & water!
I think it was only last year when I heard my Jnr call someone a b*stard over Xbox live. He's 17, he got an 'oi, language' & then I think I was just shocked that the word is still used. Not even a 'you f**king b*stard', just 'b*astrd' & he got a telling off.
He's been to a lot of games, I taught him to put his finger to his lips and say 'You're 'shuush' ahhhh, instead of 'sh*t' when the oppo goalie is kicking it when he was young. He doesn't swear in front of me & by the amount of time he spends on the Xbox & I've only heard him swear once, I wouldn't say that hearing rude words at a match has any influence whatsoever.
Language evolves 'Oh for f*cks sake' is as common as saying 'Oh blo*dy hell'. There's probably a word I don't know about that's as offensive to the younger generation as c**t is to the older one. Maybe it's 'b*stard' that is the most offensive thing the yoofs say now.
Doesn't change the fact that I don't want them to swear & I don't think they do in general conversation. I can see my Jnr laughing at the foul language from the North Stand but I can't see him joining in especially as he was in the family stand.
If I was there & in the North stand I wouldn't have joined in, but I still would've laughed & smirked, as I did at home!I
I think most of my swearing is on here actually but my kids only follow NSC on Insta (thank f**k).

Yes, it's strange (or maybe not so strange) that language, especially in terms of what is "OKish" and what is not. I sometimes refer to something being shit, and I use the F word in company with my peers - but wouldn't dream of using them in conversation with my mum and dad (whether they did in the company of their peers, I've no idea; I suspect not). But one day at my home I referred to someone as a prat - a pretty harmless word in my book - and my dad went absolutely mental.
I've still got no idea what he thought it meant, or why he was so offended!

 

[Cotton Socks]

Kids don't like hypocrisy, and they see a lot of it. I have no problem with them swearing, unless it's done for effect.

I was always taught not to swear and my parents did it little. Yet I have an absolute potty mouth. It's funny, because it seems to cause adults around me to swear more.

I remember one incident, when I was 13, when I was bowled out in a cricket match, turned and went 'f***'. My Mum, a very religious woman, but of the world, stood there and laughed. Probably because it just came out that way. No harm done. They're just words in the end. Meaningless, unless they have toxic meaning attached.

I like the word f***k. It's the most adaptable in the English language.

It's not hypocrisy if I've never sworn in front of them (or didn't). I have to confess that my FFS's have been slightly less mumbled under my breath these days. I use it as a term of exasperation though. For this weeks use of FFS, it has been the kitchen tap not turning on without some f**king around with it. No toxic meaning except to the tap. I completely agree that f**k is an amazingly versatile word.

Yes, it's strange (or maybe not so strange) that language, especially in terms of what is "OKish" and what is not. I sometimes refer to something being shit, and I use the F word in company with my peers - but wouldn't dream of using them in conversation with my mum and dad (whether they did in the company of their peers, I've no idea; I suspect not). But one day at my home I referred to someone as a prat - a pretty harmless word in my book - and my dad went absolutely mental.
I've still got no idea what he thought it meant, or why he was so offended!

Not that many years ago my mum told me off for calling someone a tw@t & I called them it in a nice way, it was humour & they weren't offended as it's everyday language. I'm pleased to say that she took up the word & told me to stop being a tw*t (in a nice way) when I was testing out her mobility scooter. I can't understand why your dad would think prat was so offensive.

I think it's all about context, I don't think there were many people there yesterday that would actually be nasty face to face with a player off of the pitch, most of us think it's pantomime. Any one who takes it further needs to get a grip. It's a game, a very passionate game that means a lot to us but it's still just a game.
Potter took flack outside of the game when he left. That was wrong. When he comes to the Amex though it's game on to swear & boo at him. What goes' on in the ground stays at the ground & shouldn't spill to anywhere from the stands either.
And anyone who doesn't agree with my 'happy clappy' sh*t, can f**k off because they're just c*nts!

 

[Triggaaar]

No, I still like him, controversial I know, but he took more money at a bigger club.

And to be fair to him, he always wanted to play for Pep - sorry, I mean for Chelsea, at the stadium he fell in love with when driving past it.

 

[Triggaaar]

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Right @Tom Hark Preston Park, I'm saving a boo for you tonight

Have you got the shakes?

 

[Eeyore]

It's not hypocrisy if I've never sworn in front of them (or didn't). I have to confess that my FFS's have been slightly less mumbled under my breath these days. I use it as a term of exasperation though. For this weeks use of FFS, it has been the kitchen tap not turning on without some f**king around with it. No toxic meaning except to the tap. I completely agree that f**k is an amazingly versatile word.

Not that many years ago my mum told me off for calling someone a tw@t & I called them it in a nice way, it was humour & they weren't offended as it's everyday language. I'm pleased to say that she took up the word & told me to stop being a tw*t (in a nice way) when I was testing out her mobility scooter. I can't understand why your dad would think prat was so offensive.

I think it's all about context, I don't think there were many people there yesterday that would actually be nasty face to face with a player off of the pitch, most of us think it's pantomime. Any one who takes it further needs to get a grip. It's a game, a very passionate game that means a lot to us but it's still just a game.
Potter took flack outside of the game when he left. That was wrong. When he comes to the Amex though it's game on to swear & boo at him. What goes' on in the ground stays at the ground & shouldn't spill to anywhere from the stands either.
And anyone who doesn't agree with my 'happy clappy' sh*t, can f**k off because they're just c*nts!

Conversely, the 'Marc Cucurella, you know your a c***' doth elicit no enjoyment from me. I don't like it as it has a toxic edge and is rather neanderthal. However, the constant boos were great fun. I love a bit of niggly banter, but I have a line where I cease to warm to it. Witty songs are far more enjoyable than the coarse junk food chants.

I loved 'You're just a shit Brighton & Hove Albion'

 

[Cotton Socks]

Conversely, the 'Marc Cucurella, you know your a c***' doth elicit no enjoyment from me. I don't like it as it has a toxic edge and is rather neanderthal. However, the constant boos were great fun. I love a bit of niggly banter, but I have a line where I cease to warm to it. Witty songs are far more enjoyable than the coarse junk food chants.

I loved 'You're just a shit Brighton & Hove Albion'

So what would you think if you replaced c*nt with tw@t? If we take back the words to their literal meaning both words refer to the same thing. 'Fannying around' is a completely acceptable thing to say but the word 'fanny' refers to the same thing as c*nt & tw@t. C*nt is not in my general vocabulary, tw@t is, fanny isn't & doesn't need to be even censored anymore. 3 different words that refer to the same thing, why is one more offensive than the other?
I'm just pondering this myself now & not expecting any answers! We must have a Susie Dent equivalent on here who can rationalise this.
I do enjoy the funny chants more than just swearing, I don't like it when people call the ref a w**ker. There was a game a couple of years ago when people (myself included) were booing the ref as he went down the tunnel. I think that got twisted to people thinking we were booing the players, it wasn't the case where I was sat. The ref needed a boo though as he was a knob.

 

[Eeyore]

So what would you think if you replaced c*nt with tw@t? If we take back the words to their literal meaning both words refer to the same thing. 'Fannying around' is a completely acceptable thing to say but the word 'fanny' refers to the same thing as c*nt & tw@t. C*nt is not in my general vocabulary, tw@t is, fanny isn't & doesn't need to be even censored anymore. 3 different words that refer to the same thing, why is one more offensive than the other?
I'm just pondering this myself now & not expecting any answers! We must have a Susie Dent equivalent on here who can rationalise this.
I do enjoy the funny chants more than just swearing, I don't like it when people call the ref a w**ker. There was a game a couple of years ago when people (myself included) were booing the ref as he went down the tunnel. I think that got twisted to people thinking we were booing the players, it wasn't the case where I was sat. The ref needed a boo though as he was a knob.

I suppose folk have different thresholds really. So I guess any answer would be neither right or wrong. When I first went to Whitehawk, the 'Ultras' had an hilarious football hymn book of songs that were really funny. I think they were made funny by their lack of coarseness. 'The referees a...referee' being one that made me giggle. Irony and sarcasm in perfect mix. It's a bit like comedians in a way. Show me a comedian who swears a lot and I'll show you an unfunny comedian. It doesn't need to be part of the act as it brings nothing, unless, of course, it has a toxic undertone which takes us back to Cucurella chant.

I think nearly all coarse football chants are repetitive derivatives that add nothing to the atmosphere of a game and give it a rather undeveloped feel. I do love a bit of original wit and humour. And a good boo, of course.

But there is just one chant than in latter years bugs me, the 'Hark now here' Palace chant. I hear it every match. I'm sure it's not reciprocated. And, given that we haven't played on a Boxing Day for so long, even less seen them 'run away' it all sounds a bit needy. As if believing in a fierce and violent enemy gives some kind of endorsement for our worth.

Anyway, I feel like I'm writing a social anthropology thesis here. So I'll get back to my most enjoyable chant of the week. Booooooo. There is something most effective and satisfying in a boo.

 

[jcdenton08]

Stupidest thing he did. Fired up our crowd and players.

Absolutely 100% this. There was a bit of a lull, it gave the crowd the impetus and it sounded red hot again after that. Very, very stupid.

 

[jcdenton08]

The fact it obviously gets to him is actually hilarious.

This. Him and Sanchez - it really gets to them. Zaha never, that was panto. This is something more personal and he knows it.