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What is your opinion of Wilfried Zaha?


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Tony Meolas Loan Spell

Slut Faced Whores
Jul 15, 2004
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My good friend at work who is a palace fan has said that he does have one big chip on his shoulder and he is a bit gobby. Now I can see why he said it.
 






CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,096
I really hope he goes to a team where he is nurtured properly as otherwise he could just implode as a player. I think Di Matteo would look after him properly, though I would loathe him to be a star for Chelsea. Good player, could be a great if brought through properly.
 


Glenn-Murray

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Jun 24, 2011
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From what I have seen of Zaha (not a huge amount, admittedly), I don't think he is the most promising young winger in this league. I genuinely think the lad Sako from Wolves is better.

You haven't seen him so you're not in a position to comment! Everyone who is making an informed decision (ie has seen him play this season) can see that he's not only the best winger in the league, but the best player too. I expect you'll change your mind on December 1st.

Darren Ferguson said that Zaha is the best player in the league after our game last week. Nigel Pearson said the same thing. As did Mick McCarthy the week before. Ian Holloway, recently managing Tom Ince, said that Zaha was the most talented player he'd ever seen.

Zaha is the real deal. Which is why he's about to become an England international.
 


Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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I think the hype over him has gotten completely out of control now, but then its no surprise when you read and hear the Palace fans almost fainting in rapture at his every stepover.

He looks like a very good young player with lots of potential, but he's only ever played in the second division, and already he's being touted around as the new Messi. Its utterly insane.
I agree with you there, he hasn't been tested at a higher level and he might well flop, Palace fans over-praising him means nothing. In other words he could turn out to be just a souped-up Jeff Minton ...
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
I know it's our job to take the piss, but I can't be bothered, as this story is crap. I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying "only Messi & Ronaldo are better than me". He was saying that when you're on the pitch you don't fear other players, as that'll harm your game - you don't look at other players and think 'oh no, they're better than me (ok, unless they're Messi or Ronaldo, in which case you can't even pretend)'
 


shaolinpunk

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Nov 28, 2005
7,187
Brighton
The sooner he secures a move to a big club the better.

For his development obviously.
 


Glenn-Murray

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Jun 24, 2011
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He is off in January as parish will be keen to maximise the hype which will inflate his valuation

Serious question but are any palace fans concerned about this hype and situation? Money aside clearly his head is going to be severely turned and a January move could derail your season

Are Palace fans concerned? No.

He won't leave in January. We'd be stupid to sell him because it could cost us promotion worth roughly £90m rather than the £20m we'd get for him, and the teams that pay the money required to sign him don't normally buy players in January. All this speculation does is drive up his price. As long as he can keep his head, which we think he can, it won't be anything but positive.

It's also nice seeing Palace on the back page of every paper in the country :)
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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Darren Lewis speaking on Sky Sports -"Zaha is not the type of player to go down easy... He has the toughness like Maradona and balance like George Best"

Maradona, Best, Messi, Ronaldo, Zaha.

Not like anyones getting TOO carried away then. Mind you, great jinking run the other day against, err, Peterborough.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Ian Holloway, recently managing Tom Ince, said that Zaha was the most talented player he'd ever seen.
Didn't he only say that after becoming your manager (which would make it meaningless)?
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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All this speculation does is drive up his price.
Which is why the CP PR team are on overdrive.

As long as he can keep his head, which we think he can
We? Are you his dad, mentor or manager? Don't you think your being a little patronising?
 




Glenn-Murray

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Jun 24, 2011
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Didn't he only say that after becoming your manager (which would make it meaningless)?


No.

"He is so unique," Holloway told the Daily Mirror. "He is an untouched, pure talent. I've never worked with anyone like him - he just wants to get the ball and beat people, however many there are, he can do it.

"Before I got to Palace, I was hearing a lot about this boy and I thought, 'Is he better than anybody else?'

"Now I have seen him. Good gracious me, it is quite unbelievable what he can do, and hopefully, a lot of fans around the country will see him still progress because it is so pure.

"You just want to give him the ball. I find myself willing my other players to give it to him because the more he has it, the better my team does.

"Hopefully, if he does play on Wednesday, people will see that and I believe he can do it at the very, very top level.

"If he gets the ball, whoever is in front of him, wherever they are from or whoever they represent, be it a Championship player, a Premier League defender or an international player, I believe Wilfried can beat them.

"The more I see him, the more I am convinced that is the case.

"I think people will see that his ability to actually beat someone is as good as anybody, anywhere else I have seen.

"I think it is totally and utterly refreshing and if he gets the chance to do it for the full England team on Wednesday, then I think you lot will be talking even more about him because I am sure he can beat those Swedes. To beat people is a wonderful thing to see.
 


bhafc_ross

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Feb 21, 2009
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Oxlaid - Chamberlain - 19 - Arsenal And England
Christian Erikisen - 20 Ajax and Denmark
Lucas Moura - 20 PSG and Brazil The transfer fee was reported to be in the region of €45m.
Oscar - Chelsea and Brazil - 20
Mario Gotze - 20 Dortmund and Germany
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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All this hype just makes it even more certain that he will be gone in January. I read that article as a come and get me with given the number of references he makes to the Premier league. Mixing with players in the England squad who are obviously not as good as him and probably earning 10 times will seriously piss him off given his opinion of himself :rolleyes:
 




Lethargic

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Oct 11, 2006
3,511
Horsham
Are Palace fans concerned? No.

He won't leave in January. We'd be stupid to sell him because it could cost us promotion worth roughly £90m rather than the £20m we'd get for him, and the teams that pay the money required to sign him don't normally buy players in January. All this speculation does is drive up his price. As long as he can keep his head, which we think he can, it won't be anything but positive.

It's also nice seeing Palace on the back page of every paper in the country :)

If your season nose dives before January and he is dropped from the England squad he will leave in January, that's the modern money driven game of football. Much as it pains me to say it he does look quite handy but the hype is getting out of control and it could go either way, rather funny that the Coke Cola kid was giving him advice. I am glad to see an English player expressing confidence and I do think some are taking the quote out of context (something that happens regularly with our own manager on here) as I am sick of criticism we give in this country when sports persons display the killer instinct needed to win.
As a Brighton fan I don't care too much as if he's as good as they say he will be out of Smellhurst shortly.
 


Glenn-Murray

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Jun 24, 2011
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All this hype just makes it even more certain that he will be gone in January. I read that article as a come and get me with given the number of references he makes to the Premier league. Mixing with players in the England squad who are obviously not as good as him and probably earning 10 times will seriously piss him off given his opinion of himself :rolleyes:

He said yesterday that he wants to play in the Premier League with Palace next season. Whether he leaves in Jan isn't up to him, even if he did want to leave, which there is no evidence for.
 


Lethargic

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Oct 11, 2006
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Horsham
No.

"He is so unique," Holloway told the Daily Mirror. "He is an untouched, pure talent. I've never worked with anyone like him - he just wants to get the ball and beat people, however many there are, he can do it.

"Before I got to Palace, I was hearing a lot about this boy and I thought, 'Is he better than anybody else?'

"Now I have seen him. Good gracious me, it is quite unbelievable what he can do, and hopefully, a lot of fans around the country will see him still progress because it is so pure.

"You just want to give him the ball. I find myself willing my other players to give it to him because the more he has it, the better my team does.

"Hopefully, if he does play on Wednesday, people will see that and I believe he can do it at the very, very top level.

"If he gets the ball, whoever is in front of him, wherever they are from or whoever they represent, be it a Championship player, a Premier League defender or an international player, I believe Wilfried can beat them.

"The more I see him, the more I am convinced that is the case.

"I think people will see that his ability to actually beat someone is as good as anybody, anywhere else I have seen.

"I think it is totally and utterly refreshing and if he gets the chance to do it for the full England team on Wednesday, then I think you lot will be talking even more about him because I am sure he can beat those Swedes. To beat people is a wonderful thing to see.

But be honest your new manager is not going to turn up and say he's not as good as the hype he's only an average player is he?
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,177
Goldstone
Didn't he only say that after becoming your manager (which would make it meaningless)?
No.

"He is so unique," Holloway told the Daily Mirror. "He is an untouched, pure talent. I've never worked with anyone like him - he just wants to get the ball and beat people, however many there are, he can do it.

"Before I got to Palace, I was hearing a lot about this boy and I thought, 'Is he better than anybody else?'

"Now I have seen him. Good gracious me, it is quite unbelievable what he can do, and hopefully, a lot of fans around the country will see him still progress because it is so pure.
Are you completely thick?

You said Holloway said that Zaha was the most talented player he'd ever seen.
I asked a simple question, whether he only said that after becoming your manager.
You answer 'no', and then post a load of quotes that were made after he became your manager :facepalm:
 




Glenn-Murray

Banned
Jun 24, 2011
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But be honest your new manager is not going to turn up and say he's not as good as the hype he's only an average player is he?

Of course not. But he could have stayed silent or given mild praise, rather than calling him the best player he'd ever seen with the ball at his feet.

Then again, nobody who has ever seen him will call him an average player. It has been blindingly obvious to Palace fans for well over a year now that we have a potentially world-class player at our club. He just radiates talent, and now Roy Hodgson has joined Arsene Wenger, Roberto Mancini, Jose Mourinho etc. in wanting him to play for his team.

Will we hold onto him forever? No. Will we keep him til the summer? I think so, and another season after that if we go up. Just wait until December 1st, you'll see what all the hype is about.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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He said yesterday that he wants to play in the Premier League with Palace next season. Whether he leaves in Jan isn't up to him, even if he did want to leave, which there is no evidence for.

But if he's up there with Maradona, Messi and Ronaldo, he's not going to find that out at Palace is he. Surely the greatest talent this country has ever produced in history will want to be out there destroying seasoned Champions League defenders and leaving them on their arses.

It'll be quite a sight.
 


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