[News] Dispatches - Growing Up poor Monday night 10pm

[midnight_rendezvous]

Need to bring a one child policy in, simple. Too many people popping out kids left, right and centre, with no foresight how they will afford them.

Or, you know, we could stop giving billions of pounds worth of tax breaks to the already wealthy, stop cutting public services, bring in a living wage and generally show some god damn empathy.

 

[Weststander]

Saw a clip of that prog, it’s terrible that people suffer. I’d gladly pay more in taxes (I’m not a higher rate tax payer), to assist the real people in need of basics (a decent standard home, food, warmth, no damp, a few quid in their pocket for some life). With a strongly policed system to prevent/catch the inevitable liars, some organised, who exploit any opportunity to rip us off.

[I already donate to charities. But these causes need an adjustment in general taxation in the UK].

 

[arewethereyet?]

Regardless of anyone’s opinions of the why’s the what’s the wherefore, in the United Kingdom in the 21st Century,

NO ONE SHOULD BE RELYING ON FOOD BANKS to survive

It simply should not be happening in a country as wealthy as ours.

 

[beorhthelm]

i dislike the way this issue uses the numbers, undermining those in real desperate need. poverty is measured as 60% below median income, its driven by statistics, not conditions. there are weird consequences of this, such as rising earnings mean more people slip below the poverty line, and the inverse, lower wages lead to people coming out of poverty. poverty fell in the years after 2008, does that make any sense? the number of children in poverty has remained around the same for a couple of decades, give or take a %, suggesting this is base line due to how we measure it, or how we address the problem.

on the issue of food banks, would people accept concept of food vouchers, to ensure those on low incomes and benefits can obtain basic food?

 

[beorhthelm]

Let's not beat around the bush here, the world is laughing at UK. Why do you think that immigrants "in fear of their safety" are happy to bypass France, or Germany, or whoever to reach the holy grail of UK?

they dont, both France and Germany have significant immigrant populations. just some prefer to come here, for language or historic reasons usually.
and bringing our European friends in to the subject, they have the same problems.

 

[Stat Brother]

Yes, people should definitely not trust the BAFTA winning series Dispatches and should. instead, listen to a tired old reactionary on a football board with a history of posting complete nonsense.

I shouldn't be surprised but once again human nature is something to behold.

I watched that and thought:-

'God I wish I could just turn up there with a van load of decent food'.
As well as
'This really shouldn't be happening in the UK'.

The 2 thoughts that didn't even cross my mind were:-

'Stop these people having children'
Or
'Well that's just bollox and not worth watching'.

I guess that probably goes someway to explain how we got here in the first place.

 

[vegster]

Is Capitalism working or, is it working too well ?

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Let's not beat around the bush here, the world is laughing at UK. Why do you think that immigrants "in fear of their safety" are happy to bypass France, or Germany, or whoever to reach the holy grail of UK?

If the UK is a laughing stock it’s because of Brexit or because 14 million people are living in poverty in ours, the sixth richest country in the world.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

You're right, I shouldn't have left my comment to suggest that nobody can have more than one child. I should have extended it to say that if you want MORE than one child, that you have the credentials to support that child for at least 18 years.

Why should people who don't want to have kids, or those that are sensible about the amount of kids they have, be persecuted financially for supporting other people's children?

You've missed the point of my post entirely but given your later posts suggesting this is an immigration issue I'm not surprised.

 

[The Clamp]

Tory government and its supporters have much to answer for.

 

[Hastings gull]

This is heartbreaking and to think half to at least most people on here vote conservative. Makes me thinking if getting Brexit done any any cost would be worth it at this rate. Poor kids.

Oh just listen to it-you just knew that some virtue-signaller was going to come on and spout. There are many reasons for poverty which has sadly always existed and always will; problems with benefit payments, fecklessness, relationship breakdowns, sudden illness; laziness. Plus the stat of one in three seems somewhat dubious, though of course it depends on your definition of poverty. I recall a charity a few years ago mentioning a similar drastic stat, and their definition was that you are poor if you cannot afford what you want . . From a lifetime in schools, I DON'T wish poverty on any child, but having dealt with many families, I know only too well that there are many reasons for poverty.

 

[middletoenail]

You've missed the point of my post entirely but given your later posts suggesting this is an immigration issue I'm not surprised.

To be fair, your 'point' was long, rambling and without anything of substance.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

To be fair, your 'point' was long, rambling and without anything of substance.

Clearly you're too stupid to understand anything other than 'it's the fault of immigrants' rather than appreciate child poverty is very complicated.

 

[The Clamp]

If you were a stranger to earth, I think one of the first things that would strike you upon visiting would be that some people live in palaces and charge the public for duck houses and others have to queue for food banks and sell themselves for money.

Or that someone who drives a race car is a millionaire yet someone who drives an ambulance is not .

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Saw a clip of that prog, it’s terrible that people suffer. I’d gladly pay more in taxes (I’m not a higher rate tax payer), to assist the real people in need of basics (a decent standard home, food, warmth, no damp, a few quid in their pocket for some life). With a strongly policed system to prevent/catch the inevitable liars, some organised, who exploit any opportunity to rip us off.

[I already donate to charities. But these causes need an adjustment in general taxation in the UK].

Have you ever seen how central government and local councils spend loads on useless vanity projects (aircraft carriers, royal families, i360s, free festivals for those who can already afford them, junkets, mindnumbing bureaucracy, endless consultants etc etc etc) when they could be doing something useful and funding the basic services (social care, rubbish collection, highways and environment) properly.

 

[nicko31]

Regardless of anyone’s opinions of the why’s the what’s the wherefore, in the United Kingdom in the 21st Century,

NO ONE SHOULD BE RELYING ON FOOD BANKS to survive

It simply should not be happening in a country as wealthy as ours.

Raab knows the root of the issue...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK-8n-daMmE

 

[Stat Brother]