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glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
It's worth watching THAT interview again, I just did and he really didn't say a lot wrong - people seem to have been rewriting history in their heads - the implication was that he felt he had to sit down with the board and push them for a little bit more next season.

I have watched it numerous times because of what people have perceved to have read into what Gus said and unless he was speaking in some sort of code I have yet to see or hear anything in it that can be that bad

That's a bit selective. You missed out the bit where he said he wanted to manage a bigger club, that we all smelled of wee and were gayers!
:lolol: I missed that bit was it subliminal
 
















Brighton Breezy

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Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
did the club refuse or did we not find anyone suitable?

Who knows. Simoeon Jackson was wanted by Chris Hughton as an insurance against injury in a potential relegation scrap for Norwich but presumably if the will and the cash was there the club could have found someone.

Did Gus want the club to take a chance and break its wage budget but was refused by Barber et al? Sounds plausible.
 






JCL - the new kid in town

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Aug 23, 2011
1,864
The lack of respect and lack of discretion especially in televised interviews, etc. etc.
You must deaf, dumb and stupid if you did not see this day coming.

without resorting to insults, there was obviously a fair chance that he would leave but that is the same with 99.9% of managers. Gus being in the top 10 of longest serving managers tells you that and only been with us a short time.

I didn't class most of what he said as a lack of respect, I'm obviously not as sensitive as some though and as if someone asked me a question about whether i'd like a better job i would answer it honestly. If he had said otherwise, people would be on his back for lying, i actually appreciate a bit of honesty
 


JCL - the new kid in town

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2011
1,864
Who knows. Simoeon Jackson was wanted by Chris Hughton as an insurance against injury in a potential relegation scrap for Norwich but presumably if the will and the cash was there the club could have found someone.

Did Gus want the club to take a chance and break its wage budget but was refused by Barber et al? Sounds plausible.

yes that is plausible, and yes i'm sure the club could have found someone and i'm glad they didn't just throw money at a potential mercenary but there are 2 sides to every story and the club may have played hardball with a player trying to get the best deal and pi**ed the otherside off and they just told them no deal.
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
without resorting to insults, there was obviously a fair chance that he would leave but that is the same with 99.9% of managers. Gus being in the top 10 of longest serving managers tells you that and only been with us a short time.

I didn't class most of what he said as a lack of respect, I'm obviously not as sensitive as some though and as if someone asked me a question about whether i'd like a better job i would answer it honestly. If he had said otherwise, people would be on his back for lying, i actually appreciate a bit of honesty



a rare commodity not much of it around I'm afraid
 




somerset

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Jul 14, 2003
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Yatton, North Somerset
Q: "It's been a long season Gus, what do you do now - Sit on a beach somewhere, relaxing?"

Gus: "Well I'll analyse everything, I'm going to analyse where we can go and analyse myself as well and see where I am at the club and the contract. Of course there are plenty of things I need to analyse about where we can go. I got to think about myself as well sometimes, it's not only about one side. Like I said, there are teams that have been in this situation that didn't make it - and they keep trying and they don't make it or they do things differently and sometimes it gets better or worse. I need to know that for sure, and clear, before I start planning next season"

Q: "Is that about sitting down with the chairman and deciding the way forward?"

Gus: "I think that is the key, you know. Every summer you sit down and you analyse where you can go, what you can get, or not - and depending on that you got a project or a way of keeping getting better. I say all the time I will be here until the time we stop getting better. The day we hit the roof I will need to think about myself as well."
I am sure he was then pressed on the 'ceiling' point, didn't he elaborate some more here?
 


ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
6,776
Just far enough away from LDC
The lack of respect and lack of discretion especially in televised interviews, etc. etc.
You must deaf, dumb and stupid if you did not see this day coming.


Gus never publicly criticised the club for selling Craig noone back last august. When he was linked with Reading, the journo from the independent was absolutely adamant that Gus was feeling let down by that decision and it was a source of his frustration at the club. But he never slagged the club iff publicly over it.
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
Gus never publicly criticised the club for selling Craig noone back last august. When he was linked with Reading, the journo from the independent was absolutely adamant that Gus was feeling let down by that decision and it was a source of his frustration at the club. But he never slagged the club iff publicly over it.

I have always thought that the club allowing him to speak to Reading was really the start of this
If the club wanting him to stay then they would have told Reading to **** off and by that showing they wanted him, by clearing the way for him to leave says it all, nothing has ever been mentioned by Gus about this , although Charlie did say in a pre-match interview that Gus had not spoken to Reading.
something happened about that time and some will have noticed that Gus did not do any interviews in that period maybe in case he said the wrong thing
 






father_and_son

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Jan 23, 2012
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Under the Police Box
I have always thought that the club allowing him to speak to Reading was really the start of this
If the club wanting him to stay then they would have told Reading to **** off and by that showing they wanted him, by clearing the way for him to leave says it all, nothing has ever been mentioned by Gus about this , although Charlie did say in a pre-match interview that Gus had not spoken to Reading.
something happened about that time and some will have noticed that Gus did not do any interviews in that period maybe in case he said the wrong thing

I was on hols when the whole Reading thing blew, but I was under the impression that Gus had a clause that he could talk to any Premier League side who came asking and TB couldn't tell them to do one. Different story outside of the Prem, but that's what I had heard (probably on here!)
 


symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
There were lots of things that Gus said post match, that the board could have ignored, but the more I view the clip and if I was the board, the more insulting it becomes.

He even looked up to the ceiling with disgust when he mentioned the people in power above him.

What really tipped the scales was Gus's email to all the staff at the Amex, and I suspect that it is only through this email of dressing room incident that it came out into the public domain. It may well have come out at some point, but Gus advertised the fact to the world the day after.
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
I was on hols when the whole Reading thing blew, but I was under the impression that Gus had a clause that he could talk to any Premier League side who came asking and TB couldn't tell them to do one. Different story outside of the Prem, but that's what I had heard (probably on here!)

this could be so
but the whole problem seems to stem from that time, if Gus had the impression that Tony and co wanted rid of him then thats maybe where the problem lies
there could have been some dispute as the whether Reading were a premiership side as they were virtually down by then??


resolution very soon please
 




Graymac

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May 1, 2013
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Isle of wight
Why o why do everyone keep going over the same old ground, with some saying its Barber fault, some saying its Gus's own fault
Soon we will know the truth & can move on & crack on with next season. Been supporting Brighton long enough to know that yes last season a bitter taste at the end, but look at the positives, a good championship side, with a good ground , with a good fan base & good future Which will attract a good new manager, so lighten up I can recall several seasons which I would consider worse than the last one. Roll on the start of the new season.
 




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