Dick's Bar: definitive (hopefullly!)opening times, rules re kids, plus Dark Star news

[hans kraay fan club]

But other fans bars allow it.

And 'our' kids are free to roam our expansive concourses which will be overflowing with beer (from the 3 people lucky enough to have been served).

Is Dick's Bar serving FOOD on matchdays? This is relevant to the licensing conditions, innit?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

And what is the difference between the 1901 lounge and the supporters bar? Both have licenses at a football stadium but one allows kids and the other doesn't. .

One is serving food, and one isn't?

 

[Giraffe]

One is serving food, and one isn't?

They both serve food.

 

[Ernest]

Any NEWS on what TIME you will BE putting the £500 behind the BAR for our DRINK ?

 

[Colossal Squid]

But other fans bars allow it.

And 'our' kids are free to roam our expansive concourses which will be overflowing with beer (from the 3 people lucky enough to have been served).

Just because others have gotten away with it, doesn't make it the norm. A premises licence is granted by the local council and obviously Brighton and Hove City Council will have NEVER had to have granted such a licence before so it is new territory for them.

And as for kids in the concourses, this is less of a problem because there is plenty of space for them to roam free there.

I think this makes perfect sense. The kiddywinks are able to visit the bar to see the place and check out the fan mosaic every day except matchdays when there just isn't the space for them. Besides, there is nowhere else that kids aren't allowed so it stands to reason that those of us without have somewhere to go.

 

[Giraffe]

And did you point out to Martin Perry that yet again it is NSC informing supporters where the club is failing to?

He really needs to embrace this I think and stop seeing it as some kind of evil.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

They both serve food.

Does the supporter's bar serve MEALS, on a matchday?

 

[attila]

I've been to loads of fans bars with an under 16. And what is the difference between the 1901 lounge and the supporters bar? Both have licenses at a football stadium but one allows kids and the other doesn't. Smells like Billy Bullshit to me.

I must say it seems a bit odd to me too, but I'm not going to punt any further questions right now at some seriously busy folk! Will raise the issue very soon

 

[albionite]

Seriously - what law says...

Kids are allowed in there on non-matchdays but not on matchdays themselves.
Kids are allowed in most/all other fan bars on matchdays - ones that I can recollect include Torquay's "Boots n Laces" and Walsall's "Saddlers Club" - but not ours.

With the bar being so busy, I reckon it will just be harder to police.

What the law says

It is against the law:
•to be drunk in charge of a child under seven in a public place or on licensed premises
•to sell alcohol to someone under 18, anywhere
•for an adult to buy or attempt to buy alcohol on behalf of someone under 18
•for someone under 18 to buy alcohol, attempt to buy alcohol or to be sold alcohol in any circumstances (unless acting at the request of the police or a weights and measures inspector)
•for someone under 18 to drink alcohol in licensed premises, with one exception - 16 and 17 year olds accompanied by an adult can drink but not buy beer, wine and cider with a table meal
•for an adult to buy alcohol for a person under 18 for consumption on licensed premises, except as above

 

[Jam The Man]

Cheers John

 

[Notters]

Don't understand not opening before the kick offs of the televised matches as this will surely make a lot of people stay away. I can see people staying in a pub until half time and then travelling to the stadium to watch as much as the second half as possible. Open at 12.30 you have all the beer money and not half of it. Perhaps the club don't want to be seen encouraging 3 hours drinking before the matches.

This. How will they be able to prove there is demand for it to open earlier, when people will be elsewhere because it doesn't open earlier?

 

[The Large One]

Just because others have gotten away with it, doesn't make it the norm. A premises licence is granted by the local council and obviously Brighton and Hove City Council will have NEVER had to have granted such a licence before so it is new territory for them.

Eh? In as much as this is a venue that holds over 20,000 people, of course the City Council has issued such a licence before - at Withdean if nothing else. There may (or may not) be extra conditions attached to this licence, but they will have still have done it before.

I must say, this rule about 'no under 18s on matchdays' doesn't sound like it's the law - unless there are extra conditions imposed by the Council and/or the FA. But if that is the case, I'd be curious to know why it would have been imposed.

 

[theonesmith]

Question..

I assume the bar is open on Saturdays when we play away from home, will they be playing the live commentary at the bar/perhaps even more albion-away related stuff? I guess a live feed from the respective away stadium is out of the question?

Would be a good way to spend away-game days, I can't afford the travel costs of roaming the country

 

[Colossal Squid]

Eh? In as much as this is a venue that holds over 20,000 people, of course the City Council has issued such a licence before - at Withdean if nothing else. There may (or may not) be extra conditions attached to this licence, but they will have still have done it before.

When has Withdean held over 20,000 people?

My point was that I don't think one blanket licence to cover the entire stadium is standard practice. Whilst the stadium as a whole will have a licence, there are likely individual, tailored licences for the various bars within the ground, be they concourse bars, members bars, the hospitality catering or indeed our supporters bar. The council can impose as many specific restrictions on each and every one of these licences as they wish. I don't know that they have, but I don't think it's as easy as saying "the law says you can, so you can".

Wasn't there a case a few years ago of the council banning a city centre premises from playing so-called RnB music as a condition of its licence? They can impose whatever restrictions and conditions they like

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Question..

I assume the bar is open on Saturdays when we play away from home, will they be playing the live commentary at the bar/perhaps even more albion-away related stuff?

Would be a good way to spend away-game days, I can't afford the travel costs of roaming the country

A very good suggestion, that

 

[The Large One]

When has Withdean held over 20,000 people?

It's not about the capacity, it's about the nature of the licence.

The City Council has granted licences for Pride each year. Christ alone knows how many that is for.

 

[gripper stebson]

Question..

I assume the bar is open on Saturdays when we play away from home, will they be playing the live commentary at the bar/perhaps even more albion-away related stuff? I guess a live feed from the respective away stadium is out of the question?

Would be a good way to spend away-game days, I can't afford the travel costs of roaming the country

BRILLIANT idea.

 

[Colossal Squid]

It's not about the capacity, it's about the nature of the licence.

The City Council has granted licences for Pride each year. Christ alone knows how many that is for.

It's still a very different natured beast to that of our new stadium and the various bars within. It's not just about predicted numbers and I still think the applications made by the club will have been unique and unlike anything else the council will have dealt with before

 

[Pantani]

When has Withdean held over 20,000 people?

My point was that I don't think one blanket licence to cover the entire stadium is standard practice. Whilst the stadium as a whole will have a licence, there are likely individual, tailored licences for the various bars within the ground, be they concourse bars, members bars, the hospitality catering or indeed our supporters bar. The council can impose as many specific restrictions on each and every one of these licences as they wish. I don't know that they have, but I don't think it's as easy as saying "the law says you can, so you can".

Wasn't there a case a few years ago of the council banning a city centre premises from playing so-called RnB music as a condition of its licence? They can impose whatever restrictions and conditions they like

It is certainly true that B&H council can impose any licensing restrictions they wish. However, it seems extremely unlikely that they would make this stipulation with regards to what is essentially a bar that closes early evening. I have only heard of restrictions on minors in bars where their opening hours go well in to the night. It is generally only clubs and late night bars that do not allow children in beacause of the regulations handed down by local licensing authorities.

 

[Pantani]

It's not about the capacity, it's about the nature of the licence.

The City Council has granted licences for Pride each year. Christ alone knows how many that is for.

Very different though. The council will have actually granted licenses for individual beer tents within Preston Park rather than the festival as a whole.