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Dick's Bar: definitive (hopefullly!)opening times, rules re kids, plus Dark Star news
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BobbySmith
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Why isn't the supporters' bar bigger? There was a time, not long ago, when certain people at the club were suggesting that since we had four big concourses, and real ale, we didn't need one! It was made EXTREMELY clear that we DID need one, and that it we didn't get one, some people would be well pissed off. We've got one. And it's actually quite a bit bigger than a 250 capacity would suggest. I think we've done OK.
It was originally proposed that there would be more furniture in the concourse areas. I don't think any of us knows just how crammed it's going to feel there with things as it is. If we feel that there is the space and ask for that i think it could happen.
Dick's bar is the logical place for the mosaic, I reckon. It's a comfortable location to examine it at your leisure. That leads to the kids issue, and opinion seems to be divided on that.
I think we all need to experience a few matches, and review the situation after that. As I said before, we've got a lovely new stadium and surely the most momentous occasion in the history of the Albion happens tomorrow. Let's ENJOY it!
Well said Atilla, cant believe that we are going into our new wonderful stadium after years of hard graft by Knight, Perry, Bloom and of course all the fans like you and others and there are still fans moaning about everything ?, why dont that just go back to Withdean and q up in the Sportsman for an hour to buy crappy beer in a plastic cup and then sit in their wet seat in the rain, eat crappy non meat burgers...................grow up all and smell the coffee and remember we are still in ramp up mode and give the club some space to sort out any issues and stop moaning...
The Large One
Who's Next?
I just cannot get my head around this parochial attitude.
Bars are NOT specifically places for children to be excluded from - or have you missed the point of what so many pubs up and down the country have been doing for the past 20 years? Especially bearing in mind what the 2003 Licensing Act set out to try and achieve.
Totally agree with this,
being that the place will probably be rammed most games, i would forget about it /make for another bar,as kids do sometimes get bored in bars,
but its one thing choosing not to go in,
and another being told that you cant ..
all were asking is to have the option open so we can gain access should we decide to...
B&HCC Building Control write...
"Dear Darren,
I am not aware of any restrictions under the Safety Certificate that prevent children in Dickies bar. As xxxxxxxxxxx outlines the alcohol license is something controlled by our licensing team who appear to be happy for children to be in the bar.
I can only suggest that you contact the stadium Operational manager Richard Hebberd who may be able to answer you enquiry."
Just what is this infernal law then?
"Dear Darren,
I am not aware of any restrictions under the Safety Certificate that prevent children in Dickies bar. As xxxxxxxxxxx outlines the alcohol license is something controlled by our licensing team who appear to be happy for children to be in the bar.
I can only suggest that you contact the stadium Operational manager Richard Hebberd who may be able to answer you enquiry."
Just what is this infernal law then?
Our kids are going to provide a massive long-term revenue stream for the club,
more red tape and restrictions are not going to encourage them to bring their kids,
the childless anti-kid brigade revenue declines when reaching 65 years and stops when they die....,
more red tape and restrictions are not going to encourage them to bring their kids,
the childless anti-kid brigade revenue declines when reaching 65 years and stops when they die....,
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
I think I'll give Dick's Bar a miss until a few games into the season. The only supporter's bar I've ever been in was what I can only call a Bordello at Gillingham. I was GREEN with envy at the time and could only dream of the day we'd have something similar but with a bit more class. I can wait another few weeks to check it out but I'll follow the feedback on here after tomorrow's game with interest. I imagine there's gonna be some world class whinging...
stevedx
New member
I am not ingnoring the context of his post, but then I could say why is he ignoring the context of mine, and as you have the same opinion as him, you are siding with him against mine.
I have no issue with the 'BAR's are not really a place for children the world over' part and as as a parent to do not really like the condesending way in which you and others of your opinion keep raising that point. I know what is good for my children, and would never put them in an uncomfortable situation or take them somewhere they did not want to go just to serve my own needs. And as has been said by others, my children are not unruly brats, as I have brought them up correctly and they are very well behaved and polite.
The point the you guys seem to be ignoring of mine (up until now), is that the children are supporters just as much as the rest of us. Also if you wish to make an area off bounds to certain people, be it because of age, sex or race or whatever reason, then surely you would not put things in those areas, that those people wish to see or partake in.
The other point that certain people have said take them on another day, well some people simply cant!
So maybe another area needs to be made and the mosaic moved.
I would like to say I can not believe how anti children some of you are, don't forget you were children once, and its lucky your parents did not feel the same way!
I guess a lot of neg rep on this new thing will be coming my way for standing up for parents and children and families against all you non family types
stevedx
New member
well said
Colossal Squid
Returning video tapes
And I just can't get my head around your attitude. I've explained myself umpteen times. If you GENUINELY believe that bars, for the sale of ALCOHOL, should be for children then you carry on believing that. I've accepted there is a demand for SOME bars to be family friendly and there are plenty of them to boot. But you can't have EVERY bar in the land child friendly, it isn't practical, it isn't necessary and it isn't wanted.
Bars are there to serve alcohol
Kids cannot be served alcohol
Ergo it is fairly straightforward that kids not be allowed into bars.
Now, we live in an age where such straightforward black and white rules no longer apply, and as I've accepted many times already, a great deal of bars are now welcoming of children (within certain limits/restrictions) so as to accommodate the ever growing number of parents who want to drink and/or dine with their children in such establishments. But just because such places exist and serve a purpose, does not mean they have suddenly become the standard and all other bars should follow suit.
This isn't about my opinion on whether children should be allowed in bars or not, it's about the misguided concept that you have a RIGHT to expect children be allowed in a bar. Nobody has this right. Anyone with even an ounce of sense can see that.
You scream "Bars are NOT specifically places for children to be excluded from" which has never been debated. The argument is that bars are NOT specifically places for children. Never have been, never will be.
Where is there even a grey area in this simple statement? Seriously, please tell me, where? I'm beginning to wonder if I'm living on a different planet
The Large One
Who's Next?
I think you are.
Quality rant.
Misguided, but quality.
Quality rant.
Misguided, but quality.
was everything to you satisfaction in DICKs today ?..
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,327
To give the 1901ers something else to moan about?
ngood77
Active member
- Aug 5, 2006
- 983
Lol !
Saint Lennard
Prawn Sarnie Casual
The 2 brats I saw running aboutin Dicks were far worse than the dozens of kids i saw in the 1901 lounge.
I've got a young son but I can see why there's a ban on kids on matchdays. Let's say pub is heaving with people and someone 'loses' their toddler in the melee, can't find them, seeks help from steward or bar staff to find them, police get involved and decide that bar needs to be evacuated, or that everyone has to be locked in until child found! It's just a potential nightmare that is probably easiest avoided by banning kids at the busiest times (i.e. matchdays). In the unlikely event that Dick's Bar stops being busy on a match day, I'm sure the club would re-consider but to me it seems sensible decision, even if I'd like to go in there with my boy. We'll just have to go for an after-school drink now and again till he's older.
I don't mind kids in there if they are kept under control, but kids wil be kids and like to run around and burn off some energy, which will in turn cause problems.
For instance matey just paid £30 for a round and is carrying a tray full of beer when little tommy runs into said tray causing it to crash to the floor.
No stick to adults only or insist kids are kept on a leash*
*joking about the leash bit
For instance matey just paid £30 for a round and is carrying a tray full of beer when little tommy runs into said tray causing it to crash to the floor.
No stick to adults only or insist kids are kept on a leash*
*joking about the leash bit
Are you suggesting that a busy pub is no greater risk than a quiet one? Anyway, my concern wasn't for the kids, who shouldn't be wrapped in cotton wool, it was for the potential hassle to the club and other fans.
Return of the Rev
Well-known member
I did ask for a family friendly bar to take the kids into but got shot down on nsc a long time ago!
Don't moan now! That was the whole point of trying to raise the issue before it was to late!
Don't moan now! That was the whole point of trying to raise the issue before it was to late!