Mullers
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perth seagull said:
But he CANNOT DELIVER! He is just an average guy who is out of his depth!
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Dick Knight, your views
- Thread starter Albion Rob
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But he CANNOT DELIVER! He is just an average guy who is out of his depth!
Braders
Abi Fletchers Gimpboy
he's only made two mistakes compared to most chairman making hundreds a day -so dk is,was,and shall ever be- god
(the two mistakes btw were selling zamora cheaply and appointing martin hinslewood as manager - but you already knew that!)
(the two mistakes btw were selling zamora cheaply and appointing martin hinslewood as manager - but you already knew that!)
The Large One
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One of the problems with inviting someone with a lot of cash is the amount of influence they would then want to exert. And referring back to previous messages, this does not necessarily mean the right man would be brought aboard.
Does a moneyman want to help the club or himself? Is he doing it for love or for ego? There are too many strands to a rich person joining the club over and above just taking his money.
Yes, DK does not have a bottomless money pit, but he does have everyone facing the same way, and that has brought us success. Is the man to be judged by success or failure?
Therefore, can anyone define success and failure in this context?
Personally, for any shortcomings as a person and/or chairman, he has my full support, and I am confident he can deliver Falmer.
Does a moneyman want to help the club or himself? Is he doing it for love or for ego? There are too many strands to a rich person joining the club over and above just taking his money.
Yes, DK does not have a bottomless money pit, but he does have everyone facing the same way, and that has brought us success. Is the man to be judged by success or failure?
Therefore, can anyone define success and failure in this context?
Personally, for any shortcomings as a person and/or chairman, he has my full support, and I am confident he can deliver Falmer.
Gritt23
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Can't face reading the whole thread as the "Knight Out" and "Dick Tight" brigade will just piss me off.
I back him, and always will.
I back him, and always will.
daveyboybhafc
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- Jul 18, 2003
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just because he did good in the past it doesn't mean he is allowed to f*** up the club now. people don't have short memories they are just fed up with him pissing about. If Mother Theresa had gunned down the pope would we say, 'oh its ok, she is allowed as she helped lots of people in the past?'
Italiaseagull
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Italiaseagull said:
I'm now seriously pissed off! We have lost possibly the best player we ever had for a pittance, and Dick Tight won't even give a single penny of that money to enable SC to bring in a replacment!
Gritt23
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Mullers said:But he CANNOT DELIVER! He is just an average guy who is out of his depth!
So, what do you propose Mullers? Do you have millions stashed up your sleeve?
Of cause a wealthy benefactor would be nice, but in the majority of cases it just doesnt happen. You therefore need to rely on a well-run, prudent approach to governing the club.
Knight'll do for me.
Gritt23
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Okay - so I have been drawn in.
WHERE EXACTLY do you all think the money to fight the Falmer legal battle is actually coming from. Do you really believe the only expenses at a football club are transfer fees and players wages??
Wake up and smell the coffee. The club LOSES money as a result of playing at Withdean. Add to that the expense of Falmer - which we MUST do to survive - and of course we need all the income we can muster to survive.
Why is this such a surprise to so many people??
WHERE EXACTLY do you all think the money to fight the Falmer legal battle is actually coming from. Do you really believe the only expenses at a football club are transfer fees and players wages??
Wake up and smell the coffee. The club LOSES money as a result of playing at Withdean. Add to that the expense of Falmer - which we MUST do to survive - and of course we need all the income we can muster to survive.
Why is this such a surprise to so many people??
Mullers
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Gritt23 said:So, what do you propose Mullers? Do you have millions stashed up your sleeve?
Of cause a wealthy benefactor would be nice, but in the majority of cases it just doesnt happen. You therefore need to rely on a well-run, prudent approach to governing the club.
Knight'll do for me.
I propose that we find out more about "Steve Foster's mate", who I understand has loads of money and wants to invest in the club. However, naturally, he expects Dick Tight to step aside.
If the Albion legend that is Steve Foster (of '83 FA Cup headband fame, for all you kids out there!), is behind him, then i believe that he should get a chance to tell us about his proposals. We gave Dick Knight a chance when he was put forward by Liam Brady, and he was "just another manager" who cleared-off to Arsenal at the first chance!
propose that we find out more about "Steve Foster's mate", who I understand has loads of money and wants to invest in the club. However, naturally, he expects Dick Tight to step aside.
FFS Mullers, now
You want him in now?
Knight is a long way along the road to Falmer and you want him to step down now?? Can you not understand how f***ing stoopid that sounds? Let a new guy in, lose the trust of the council and everyone else that the club has been dealing with and probably lose Falmer.
FFS
FFS Mullers, now
You want him in now?Knight is a long way along the road to Falmer and you want him to step down now?? Can you not understand how f***ing stoopid that sounds? Let a new guy in, lose the trust of the council and everyone else that the club has been dealing with and probably lose Falmer.
FFS
El Presidente said:... DK has put about £1.4 million of his money into the Albion and taken nothing out.
I know who I would rather have
Anyone else got a spare £1.4m (UKP1,400,000) they can give the club ? or add to the other directors £3.1m (UKP3,100,000) ??
I think they are doing a great job, in very difficult circumstances.
Nobody else has come forward to offer cash to help - an unsubstantiated 'offer' from a shady 'businessman' with ridiculous conditions attached is worth SFA.
The whingers are a clueless bunch of gits, IMHO!
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Albion Rob
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It looks as if the success or failure judgement will come down to whther we get Falmer or not.
On another note, if you go as far west as Southwick, as far north as Hickstead and as far east as Lewes, that is a bloody big area, you would think that if they don't give us Falmer there must be somewhere within that boundary that we could all come to an agreement on.
On another note, if you go as far west as Southwick, as far north as Hickstead and as far east as Lewes, that is a bloody big area, you would think that if they don't give us Falmer there must be somewhere within that boundary that we could all come to an agreement on.
I thought a Director was bankrolling the Public Inquiry and development costs for the promise of a building contract plus shares. Risk and rewards game.
I do NOT expect to see the Zamora spare change going to pay towards this.
If Falmer goes up the swanny, there could be ructions in the Board Room for the money that will have gone down the drain. The Director is assumed to have known the risks. I would not expect the supporters to bail him out with increased ticket prices, the Zamora money going towards his losses?
The stadium should have been, or should be, kept completely apart from the football side of things.
It might be, but the PR says it is the cost of the Public Inquiry that is the millstone when I understood it would not be from previous statements.
I do NOT expect to see the Zamora spare change going to pay towards this.
If Falmer goes up the swanny, there could be ructions in the Board Room for the money that will have gone down the drain. The Director is assumed to have known the risks. I would not expect the supporters to bail him out with increased ticket prices, the Zamora money going towards his losses?
The stadium should have been, or should be, kept completely apart from the football side of things.
It might be, but the PR says it is the cost of the Public Inquiry that is the millstone when I understood it would not be from previous statements.
Mullers
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perseus said:
Too bloody right is should have been, and paid for by other than gate receipts. What will happen if, as is a strong possibility, the application is turned-down by the enquiry? Will the club be forced to fold as a result of a high-risk strategy?
Dandyman
In London village.
If anyone wants to look at today's Arsegas ( or their website) you'll see SC has said part of the reason for bargain price Bobby was the on-going need to fund Falmer. Until we have the new stadium the potential for additional revenue and hence new players, our expansion as a club, etc will remain limited.
To blame DK for this is frankly absurd. There are aspects of how Falmer has been handled which I think have been clumsy and we all know that Hinch' was serious error of judgement, but the truth is without Knight we would now be in AFC Dons land, not a viable financially stable club, playing in Brighton, with a potentially bright future ahead of us.
Talk about friends of Fozzy, etc is pie in the sky. Where were these people in '96 or '97 when their fabled millions were needed ? If anyone wants to put fresh money into the club, I'm sure we would all welcome it. What I, and think the majority, would not welcome is some carpet bagger seeking to turn a profit on what has been achieved since Belotti and Archole were shown the door.
To blame DK for this is frankly absurd. There are aspects of how Falmer has been handled which I think have been clumsy and we all know that Hinch' was serious error of judgement, but the truth is without Knight we would now be in AFC Dons land, not a viable financially stable club, playing in Brighton, with a potentially bright future ahead of us.
Talk about friends of Fozzy, etc is pie in the sky. Where were these people in '96 or '97 when their fabled millions were needed ? If anyone wants to put fresh money into the club, I'm sure we would all welcome it. What I, and think the majority, would not welcome is some carpet bagger seeking to turn a profit on what has been achieved since Belotti and Archole were shown the door.
Mullers said:Too bloody right is should have been, and paid for by other than gate receipts. What will happen if, as is a strong possibility, the application is turned-down by the enquiry? Will the club be forced to fold as a result of a high-risk strategy?
Sadly there is no other strategy, unless you want to spend the rest of your life watching a 3rd division club, who might have the occasional good season.
We were lucky to have Zamora, Adams, Taylor and Coppell, but that luck will run out some time.......unless we have a stadium and facilities that can generate income as opposed to Withdean.
We all know that all the eggs are in the Falmer basket, and it is a risk, but there is no alternative
The alternative strategy would have been to form a separate company or get an expert property development company to build the stadium and lease it back to the Albion with an option to buy. This is low risk, low rewards and Albion would not have to pay for the Public Inquiry.
Albion seem to have gone for the high risk high potential rewards strategy and come a cropper.
If they succeed the management decision will be reckoned to be good, if they fail it is wrong.
If you want to be generous, I/we could say that Dick Knight has done a reasonable job of running a football club, with successes outweighing mistakes, but it is still an open question whether they are any good at property development?
If Falmer goes up the swanny, I would not want the same team (Martin Perry & Co.) remaining in charge for an alternative.
Albion seem to have gone for the high risk high potential rewards strategy and come a cropper.
If they succeed the management decision will be reckoned to be good, if they fail it is wrong.
If you want to be generous, I/we could say that Dick Knight has done a reasonable job of running a football club, with successes outweighing mistakes, but it is still an open question whether they are any good at property development?
If Falmer goes up the swanny, I would not want the same team (Martin Perry & Co.) remaining in charge for an alternative.
Mullers
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El Presidente said:
IMHO the club should have been sold a year ago. When the Board knew they could not fund a realistic Div1 campaign, and their asset was at its greatest, with Div1 status, Bobby, and things were looking good for Falmer.
But who would want to buy a loss making business which had just lost its second largest revenue stream (ITV Digital) and had committed itself to a huge increase in expenditure ( new contracts for BZ, Chippy, FDM etc)
From a pure commerce perspective no one would invest in the Albion
From a pure commerce perspective no one would invest in the Albion
Mullers said:
Not exactly overwhelmed with offers at the time, were we ??
or now, for that matter !
Why not give it a rest for a couple of months ? Come back in October when we know the future for Falmer and the club!