Don Quixote
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- Nov 4, 2008
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It supported Labour in the last general election.
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Diane Abbott in fine form this morning...
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It supported Labour in the last general election.
I did not think so, but I suppose they saw a party on the slide before many on here.
Corbyn, McDonald and Abbott, the A team
Weststander
Well-known member
No speeches, interviews or gaffs by Abbott this week.
A wise PR move by the Politburo to hide her for a month.
A wise PR move by the Politburo to hide her for a month.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
We've had another Momentum activist resign because of anti-Semitic comments though so with 3 in 3 days it's good to see other targets being met. This one's from Brighton too.
https://antisemitism.uk/melanie-mel...-the-orders-of-mrs-may-and-the-israeli-lobby/
Weststander
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Melvin sounds nuts. Other than Putin (but does he really?), who doesn't believe that Assad gassed his opponents.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
Would you be surprised if I said George Galloway?
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,876
Hugely depressing state of politics is in this country.
Conservative Party suggesting a massively unpopular policy of Fox Hunting to divert the debate. Will win.
Labour suggesting an equally popular one of Rail "privatisation" (they effectively are in parts) but will fail massively.
The opportunist as ever Lib Dems talking about the reverse of Brexit when the vote was lost.
No chance on hell of any party willing to work with another.
Agree or disagree with Brexit - but with this shower of shit on all sides (and the bureaucrats in Brussels) I genuinely worry.
I find myself having a choice between Palace, Portsmouth or Southampton.
I'm gonna go non league I think with The Cat's Protection Green Moonie Coalition.
Conservative Party suggesting a massively unpopular policy of Fox Hunting to divert the debate. Will win.
Labour suggesting an equally popular one of Rail "privatisation" (they effectively are in parts) but will fail massively.
The opportunist as ever Lib Dems talking about the reverse of Brexit when the vote was lost.
No chance on hell of any party willing to work with another.
Agree or disagree with Brexit - but with this shower of shit on all sides (and the bureaucrats in Brussels) I genuinely worry.
I find myself having a choice between Palace, Portsmouth or Southampton.
I'm gonna go non league I think with The Cat's Protection Green Moonie Coalition.
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Weststander
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Abbott was just grilled by Jon Snow on C4 news about her current colleagues with her, voting repeatedly in Parliament against anti-terrorist legislation.
It caught her off guard, with the usual stumbling and stuttering as she concocted her reply of .... "At the time, it wouldn't have made much difference".
Delving into her rebelling against anti-terror legislation in parliament:
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpc=Hackney_North_%26amp%3B_Stoke_Newington
Her angle is always the rights of terror suspects and their promoters. Thankfully for our safety, Parliament generally voted for the legislation, giving the Police and MI5 the tools to crush 100's of terror plots.
It caught her off guard, with the usual stumbling and stuttering as she concocted her reply of .... "At the time, it wouldn't have made much difference".
Delving into her rebelling against anti-terror legislation in parliament:
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpc=Hackney_North_%26amp%3B_Stoke_Newington
Her angle is always the rights of terror suspects and their promoters. Thankfully for our safety, Parliament generally voted for the legislation, giving the Police and MI5 the tools to crush 100's of terror plots.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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Spot on. It's at times like these that politicians need to be held to account for their previous words and actions regarding the Police, Armed Forces and the succour that she and her ilk have given to terrorists. She's truly despicable.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
- 21,794
If you want to gain political capital from home secretaries with regards Manchester and policing, lets see what the Conservative home secretary said 2 years ago.
May accused the Police Federation of scaremongering and repeatedly “crying wolf” over the impact of the previous round of cuts in police funding as part of the government’s austerity programme – and rejected their claims that further cuts would force them to adopt “paramilitary styles of policing” in Britain.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...are-for-further-cuts-theresa-may-tells-police
May accused the Police Federation of scaremongering and repeatedly “crying wolf” over the impact of the previous round of cuts in police funding as part of the government’s austerity programme – and rejected their claims that further cuts would force them to adopt “paramilitary styles of policing” in Britain.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...are-for-further-cuts-theresa-may-tells-police
Weststander
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Not political capital. The safety of the UK public.
Her nauseous angle from the Islington/Hackney bubble, of being an alleged human rights champion, didn't take into account the human rights of future victims of terrorism. She talks the Marxist talk, but talk is cheap. Real governments and real ministers set out to protect the public as their number one obligation.
Abbott is not fit for government. Playing the tough against terrorism card will be convenient electioneering. If she was a person of conviction, she should spend the next two weeks banging the drum of terrorist suspects human rights. She won't, of course.
Corbyn and Momentum will probably have to hide Abbott away for another fortnight.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Is the safety of the UK public served by significantly cutting police services, which May did in her role as home secretary?
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
Well, if we're going to look at police resourcing then am I allowed to question the police hours spent investigating tweets made in questionable taste when they could have been directed towards something that actually matters?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Waste of time arguing with them, the Tories sneaked out another U Turn today as they'd costed their school breakfast stunt at 7p per child unless they were planning on feeding them gruel ?
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Theresa May was repeatedly told that cuts to community policing could harm Greater Manchester police’s ability to combat crimes such as terrorism, according to the force’s former police commissioner.
Tony Lloyd, the Labour police commissioner who stood down from a five-year tenure on 9 May, said he “constantly” raised the issue of cuts to police numbers and told the then home secretary that it could cut off a flow of intelligence from local communities.
Lloyd told the Guardian:
"The issue [of resources] has certainly been raised with government around counter-terrorism. You begin and end with any form of policing – whether it’s combating organised crime or terrorism with community policing.
I constantly raised the issue of resources with the home secretary to stop the cuts. The response that May has always given is that crime has gone down."
Tony Lloyd, the Labour police commissioner who stood down from a five-year tenure on 9 May, said he “constantly” raised the issue of cuts to police numbers and told the then home secretary that it could cut off a flow of intelligence from local communities.
Lloyd told the Guardian:
"The issue [of resources] has certainly been raised with government around counter-terrorism. You begin and end with any form of policing – whether it’s combating organised crime or terrorism with community policing.
I constantly raised the issue of resources with the home secretary to stop the cuts. The response that May has always given is that crime has gone down."
Weststander
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Corbyn against shoot to kill terrorists:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...against-shoot-to-kill-uk-paris-attacks-labour
Criticised by his colleagues on that, so back tracks:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34840708
Marxist McDonnell signed document calling for the disbanding of MI5 and proudly hugs the publication:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...calling-for-mi5-to-be-disbanded-a6740821.html
When he later got elected as part of the Momentum Shadow Cabinet, he claimed his signature was a cut and paste error.
These alleged men of conviction will do anything to try and get power.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...against-shoot-to-kill-uk-paris-attacks-labour
Criticised by his colleagues on that, so back tracks:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34840708
Marxist McDonnell signed document calling for the disbanding of MI5 and proudly hugs the publication:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...calling-for-mi5-to-be-disbanded-a6740821.html
When he later got elected as part of the Momentum Shadow Cabinet, he claimed his signature was a cut and paste error.
These alleged men of conviction will do anything to try and get power.
midnight_rendezvous
Well-known member
As opposed to May who called targeting children sickening cowardice (which it is) but sells Saudi's bombs that kill children in Yemen.
Weststander
Well-known member
Why no comment on the disbanding of MI5, opposing shoot to kill terrorists, opposing anti terror legislation?
You clearly have absolutely no interest on the UK.
That's one of many reasons why in two weeks time the British public won't trust this non-conviction bunch of Marxist chancers.
Raleigh Chopper
New member
But you agree that more and more children in this country with a strong and stable leadership should live in poverty, and probably the only decent hot meal they will have is a school dinner, but that will be taken away as well, you helmet.
midnight_rendezvous
Well-known member
And you've just ignored the fact that OUR government is selling weapons that are killing children. We as a nation are implicit in the deaths of innocent children. Also worth mentioning that May was told that the cuts to policing would greatly affect their effectiveness in their ability to counter terrorism, she said they were 'crying wolf'.
The Tories have also overseen the following; Privitastion of the NHS, the rise in food banks, a huge rise in child poverty, rip off landlords, welfare cuts, cuts to cooperation tax meaning cooperations pay less tax than their employees, spectacularly missed economic targets, the longest fall in value of wages since records began, the austerity con, the most unaffordable homes ever, the biggest education funding cuts in decades and the defunding of local government.
And you have the gall to say that I have no interest in the UK.
But you'd rather moan about JC