burrish-gull
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Thanks for your welcome input, you really should get a job in TV with the technical knowledge you seem to have.
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Derren Brown Lottery Trick Revealed
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Thanks for your welcome input, you really should get a job in TV with the technical knowledge you seem to have.
No worries. As I said, the mistake made it easy to work out.
I imagine the runner got sacked, or a big bollocking at least? Perhaps your contact can confirm that?
burrish-gull
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Why would the runner get sacked? The very slight jump was due to technical differences (frame rates) specifically related to the Sony Digibeta VCR that was being being used in the studio having problems (with its Video In TimeCode) syncing to the camera being used.
Again I was'nt aware anyone on here knew that but you seem to know more than me.
gripper stebson
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You have to understand burrish that coming on here with anything even vaguely interesting is NOT ON.
I suggest setting up a poll to see who prefers Scooby Doo over Captain Cavemen would be a better way to go!!
Wozza is not talking about a 'frame jump' but about the fact that one of the balls inexplicably moves from one frame to the next. And the movement is clearly not because of any technical feature/glitch but because the runner who put the numbered balls in place before Brown 'revealed' them, put them back incorrectly. The ball was, literally, in the wrong place.
burrish-gull
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It was all discusssed on this thread.
And here is the ball (the right one) in a raised position, after the 'reveal'. Before the balls are revealed there is clearly a moment where this ball jumps from one position to another. As I say, not a technical feature, but because when the programme reverted to a single-camera view, the ball had been put in the wrong place by the runner.
And here is the ball (the right one) in a raised position, after the 'reveal'. Before the balls are revealed there is clearly a moment where this ball jumps from one position to another. As I say, not a technical feature, but because when the programme reverted to a single-camera view, the ball had been put in the wrong place by the runner.
As Bozza says, I'm talking about the ball moving. That's what gave the game away, not a frame jump.
It was all covered here, weeks ago. Sorry to burst your bubble.
This Derren Brown Lottery prediction - Page 5 - North Stand Chat
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move on with your lives people, move on with your lives
burrish-gull
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Well spotted but my original post was about how they technically did it (the kit involved) not about any human errors made, but as always on here the original debate gets lost
Cheeky Monkey
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Well spotted but my original post was about how they technically did it (the kit involved) not about any human errors made, but as always on here the original debate gets lost
STOP IT BURRISH! NOW! If you're not at work then there must be some gardening to be done or washing up you can do, or maybe even go into town, the library?!!?
burrish-gull
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Dont worry mate I've got a life and simply don't have the time to rack up a 9,000 post count with the 'in crowd' on here.
NSC can now get back to slagging our players off again
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surely DB would have asked his cameraman to keep it a secret, i think your making it up.
burrish-gull
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Have to respond to this one!
For starters he does'nt have his own cameraman and practically everyone in the industry works freelance, including myself.
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it dosn't have to be his OWN, but im sure having gone to all the trouble DB went to i doubt he'd want the cameraman/woman (who ever it may be) to tell all.
still think your making it up.
burrish-gull
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Nope you are wrong there I'm afraid no special code of secrecy was signed, just DB's production company not having a clue how they were going to do it and having to resort to a specialised film unit to do it at the last minute.
Well spotted but my original post was about how they technically did it (the kit involved) not about any human errors made, but as always on here the original debate gets lost
But your thread title is "Derren Brown Lottery Trick Revealed" - like you're telling us something we didn't know. Sorry, but we did!
Any other exclusive relevations from inside TV land? Dame Edna Everage not a woman?!?
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You make it sound like he conjured up this illusion on a Sunday afternoon,
Implying they came up with an idea with knowing how it was going to work
"and then at the last minute" resort to a specialised film unit.As the camera is central to the illusion this would have been the the primary consideration to the act.
We know Brown cocked up on this one but he is not stupid.
He does his preparation very well, but got let down by an assistant. nothing to do with the camera trickery.
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Theres a great story I know about Phillip Schofield and Jason Donavon.
burrish-gull
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You make it sound like he conjured up this illusion on a Sunday afternoon,
Implying they came up with an idea with knowing how it was going to work
As the camera is central to the illusion this would have been the the primary consideration to the act.
We know Brown cocked up on this one but he is not stupid.
He does his preparation very well, but got let down by an assistant. nothing to do with the camera trickery.
I know its hard to believe but the world of television works like this alot!! I've spent over 10 years working in it, most of it is 'smoke and mirrors' run by increasingly untalented individuals who's technical knowledge leaves alot to be desired.
Here's the list of film credits my friends worked on,
Visual Effects:
* 2000s
* 1990s
1. The Golden Compass (2007) (camera technician)
2. Eragon (2006) (clapper Loader: visual effects unit)
3. V for Vendetta (2005) (clapper Loader: visual effects unit) (model unit: Cinesite)
... aka V for Vendetta: At the IMAX (UK: IMAX version)
... aka V for Vendetta: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
... aka V wie Vendetta (Germany)
4. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) (motion control operator)
... aka Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
... aka The Goblet of Fire (USA: short title)
5. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) (motion control operator)
... aka Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
6. The Phantom of the Opera (2004) (motion control operator)
... aka Andrew Lloyd Webber's The Phantom of the Opera (USA: promotional title)
7. Finding Neverland (2004) (motion control)
8. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) (motion control)
... aka Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
9. Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life (2003)
... aka Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Die Wiege des Lebens (Germany)
10. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003) (motion control)
... aka Die Liga der außergewöhnlichen Gentlemen (Germany)
... aka LXG (USA: promotional abbreviation)
... aka Liga výjimecných (Czech Republic)
... aka The League (USA: promotional title)
11. Veronica Guerin (2003) (visual effects clapper loader: Mill Film)
12. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) (motion control)
... aka Harry Potter und die Kammer des Schreckens (Germany)
13. K-19: The Widowmaker (2002) (motion control operator)
... aka K*19: The Widowmaker (USA: poster title)
... aka K-19 - Showdown in der Tiefe (Germany)
... aka K-19: Terreur sous la mer (Canada: French title)
14. The Count of Monte Cristo (2002) (motion control)
... aka Alexandre Dumas' The Count of Monte Cristo (USA: complete title)
15. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) (motion control operator: motion control unit)
... aka Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (Canada: English title) (International: English title) (UK)
... aka Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (USA: alternative title)
16. Gladiator (2000) (motion control)
17. Pitch Black (2000) (motion control loader)
... aka The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black (USA: DVD box title)
18. The World Is Not Enough (1999) (motion control loader)
... aka T.W.I.N.E. (UK: promotional abbreviation)
... aka Twine (International: English title: promotional abbreviation)
19. The Magical Legend of the Leprechauns (1999) (TV) (motion control operator)
... aka Kampf der Kobolde (Germany)
... aka Leprechauns (USA: short title)
20. Entrapment (1999) (motion control)
... aka Verlockende Falle (Germany)
21. The Mummy (1999) (motion control loader)
22. The Periwig-Maker (1999) (motion control camera)
... aka Der Perückenmacher (Germany)