[Albion] Derby - Away Support

[Taybha]

And the rest, excellent excuse to escape the xmas shopping! Anything under 2000 is poor we expect the team to raise their game for the big matches we should do the same.

Triffic you pay for my ticket ile be there

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Triffic you pay for my ticket ile be there

If it's only the £30 that's stopping you how about an early Christmas present from family/friends? Or reducing the cost of your gifts to them by giving a lovely framed selfie of you celebrating the winning goal at Derby.

 

[Quinney]

Took 3500 plus to Chesterfield the last time Zamora played for us. Thats why I love the Albion, Chesterfield away is much more interesting than the like of Derby or Forest. Brighton have week in week out far bigger journeys than anyone else. Away support is quality when that is factored in but most dont have the brains to think of it because the press dont. How often do we hear "Some northern club have taken 2500 to some midlands club. Its taken them all about 45 minutes / 1 hour on the motorway. About the same journey time that our fans from Hastings take to get to home games.

Agree with you regarding away support. If you were put a circle around Sheffield for example showing how many games are within a 2 hour journey then that's us just getting to our connection in London. We took 4000 to Fulham when we were in the bottom 3 last season for a night game.

 

[redoubtable seagull]

Lots of legitimate reasons being shared as to why we'll barely take 1300 to Derby. But it's still a poor showing from a side that's top of the table, unbeaten and playing one its main rivals for an automatic spot. I think we took more away in our league one days than we do now.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Lots of legitimate reasons being shared as to why we'll barely take 1300 to Derby. But it's still a poor showing from a side that's top of the table, unbeaten and playing one its main rivals for an automatic spot. I think we took more away in our league one days than we do now.

it was more fun
regards
DR

 

[Bozza]

it was more fun
regards
DR

It says more about you than anyone else if you can't go to Derby this weekend and not have bundles of fun.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It says more about you than anyone else if you can't go to Derby this weekend and not have bundles of fun.

I'm not an ale drinking curry eating fanatic
regards
DR

 

[SpaceRam]

Welcome!

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure that play-off season we in the right hand corner for the play-off game but in the left hand corner for the league game. Now, I was (un)reasonably smashed on both occasions so it is entirely possible I've imagined the old switcheroo.

Cheers. As has been said already you're right, even through the alcoholic haze. Nowadays it's the southeast corner for the visitors. Sorry you can't have the North Stand, but you wouldn't want it anyway as it contains the family area. Not long to go now - I hope the game lives up to its importance and we play to our potential!

 

[just-a-person]

They did make a serious racket and fed off their good start, keeping the momentum going on and off the pitch. Although a few Albion left early and missed our consolation, I remember us singing through to the end and acknowledging the players well.

You do get a decent corner there where the fans can bounce songs off each other. Sadly I can't be there so I won't make grand statements about getting behind the lads. But a few early choruses of "OOOhhhh BOBBY Zamora..." should wind up the natives.

PG

PS Leicester refer to them as Direby which their gritty east midlands dialect approximates.

P.s Derby don't care about Leicester, nobody does and guaranteed the Derby fans will sing Oh Bobby Zamora louder than the seagulls.

 

[Keith Patel]

Took 3500 plus to Chesterfield the last time Zamora played for us. Thats why I love the Albion, Chesterfield away is much more interesting than the like of Derby or Forest. Brighton have week in week out far bigger journeys than anyone else. Away support is quality when that is factored in but most dont have the brains to think of it because the press dont. How often do we hear "Some northern club have taken 2500 to some midlands club. Its taken them all about 45 minutes / 1 hour on the motorway. About the same journey time that our fans from Hastings take to get to home games.

Very well said.

 

[Sheebo]

I think every Albion fan wanted Derby to win the play offs that season against a QPR team who cheated to go up (FFP failures right?). I also believe it was that season Derby put in one of the best performances at the Amex I've seen. Truely brilliant pacey passing and moving. I don't think many of our fans expected anything from the play off semi that year - it was more a case of an achievement to get there. Injuries really conspired against us at the back that day - didn't we end up with Ward CB and Chicksen LB? Unbelievable really and it did help give the scoreline a very one sided look, but no excuses Derby deserved to go through.

I think it says a lot that we're still outsiders for promotion this year with the bookies - Derby and Boro the favs still & rightly so given their budgets they've got.. I have a feeling with the left back disaster currenelty, Saturday will be the day the record goes. But the 6 points we've banked in the last 2 games mean we'll still be up there if it does. Most of our fans are just happy to be involved in a completely unexpected promotion fight

 

[Simster]

Took 3500 plus to Chesterfield the last time Zamora played for us. Thats why I love the Albion, Chesterfield away is much more interesting than the like of Derby or Forest. Brighton have week in week out far bigger journeys than anyone else. Away support is quality when that is factored in but most dont have the brains to think of it because the press dont. How often do we hear "Some northern club have taken 2500 to some midlands club. Its taken them all about 45 minutes / 1 hour on the motorway. About the same journey time that our fans from Hastings take to get to home games.

We took 2,400. Unlike you to big up our support to absurd levels. Listening to some of your nonsense, you'd think we were a club as big as West Ham or Aston Villa. However I do agree with the thrust of your argument.


There is also another factor that is ignored when it comes to our away support - we don't benefit from a London bounce. Most northern and south western clubs will have fans in and within commuting distance of London, which is a magnet for jobs for people all over the country. This means that whenever there is a game in London or the home counties, those fans get to attend. This is why Plymouth and Middlesbrough are able to bring numbers that we will rarely reciprocate with.

However, seeing as London is on our doorstep, it stands to reason that even if some of our fans do move to London, the travelling time to games in the south east is not noticeably different from the travelling time from Brighton.

When Middlesbrough fans cream themselves over their large away support (they'll bring 1,000 here instead of the 500 we take up there), do they honestly believe those 1,000 have all made the long trip from 50 miles north of Yorkshire? Of course not. Half of those are indisputably southern exiles. We have two Boro fans playing in my Monday night 5 a side group in Reigate, as an anecdotal example.

 

[Peter Grummit]

We took 2,400. Unlike you to big up our support to absurd levels. Listening to some of your nonsense, you'd think we were a club as big as West Ham or Aston Villa. However I do agree with the thrust of your argument.


There is also another factor that is ignored when it comes to our away support - we don't benefit from a London bounce. Most northern and south western clubs will have fans in and within commuting distance of London, which is a magnet for jobs for people all over the country. This means that whenever there is a game in London or the home counties, those fans get to attend. This is why Plymouth and Middlesbrough are able to bring numbers that we will rarely reciprocate with.

However, seeing as London is on our doorstep, it stands to reason that even if some of our fans do move to London, the travelling time to games in the south east is not noticeably different from the travelling time from Brighton.

When Middlesbrough fans cream themselves over their large away support (they'll bring 1,000 here instead of the 500 we take up there), do they honestly believe those 1,000 have all made the long trip from 50 miles north of Yorkshire? Of course not. Half of those are indisputably southern exiles. We have two Boro fans playing in my Monday night 5 a side group in Reigate, as an anecdotal example.

Dead right.

There is, however, a general geo-demographic trend that people are much less likely to live where they grew up. It stems from labour mobility, in part born of the much higher proportions of uni students, many of whom stay on where they studied, or are content to continue to live away from home. So, the Albion does have an increasingly large proportion of away fans who live close to that away fixture. It would be interesting to sample those going to Derby tomorrow, how many live in Sussex?

PG

 

[oneillco]

Agree entirely about the London bounce...I work with all sorts of northerners in London and they go to the London/south games and boast about their amazing away following. In fact for the Boro match I know two of them who live in Brighton and another two coming the whole 50 miles from south London.

 

[ack]

Anyone available to pick us up from swadlincote??

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Dead right.

There is, however, a general geo-demographic trend that people are much less likely to live where they grew up. It stems from labour mobility, in part born of the much higher proportions of uni students, many of whom stay on where they studied, or are content to continue to live away from home. So, the Albion does have an increasingly large proportion of away fans who live close to that away fixture. It would be interesting to sample those going to Derby tomorrow, how many live in Sussex?

PG

Completely wrong about uni students. Current trend is for undergraduates to study closer to home than ever before and to be more likely than ever before to return home, or close to, upon graduation.

Migration to the South East from any of the various outposts under discussion must be at least 20 times that of Brightonians going in the other direction...?

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Agree entirely about the London bounce...I work with all sorts of northerners in London and they go to the London/south games and boast about their amazing away following. In fact for the Boro match I know two of them who live in Brighton and another two coming the whole 50 miles from south London.

This. I know several Boro, Newcastle and Sunderland fans locally.

I don't know anyone who has moved to the North East from Sussex.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

It would be interesting to sample those going to Derby tomorrow, how many live in Sussex?

PG

Well of those I know going to Derby I can speak for about 15

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Lots of sensible, well written posts from Derby fans on this thread. The Palace GIMPS who post on here could learn a thing or two from them.

Although probably not as Derby County is a proper football club and Crystal Palace is a winky wanky chav suburb court jester dump of a modern football franchise with zero class.

#GIMPS

100% agree

 

[Peter Grummit]

Completely wrong about uni students. Current trend is for undergraduates to study closer to home than ever before and to be more likely than ever before to return home, or close to, upon graduation./QUOTE]

In the short term (last 5 years) that is true. But in the long-term (which is what affects where people live across the whole population, in this regard) the dominant factor is the huge increase in student numbers. In 1990 there were 77,000 first degree graduates: by 2011 it was 351,000.

PG