[Misc] Dentist Query - Any one a dentist or know how the system works ?

[amexer]

Maybe

Why are you not working now ?

 

[driller]

Why are you not working now ?

It was 13.18 and I was eating a rather nice sandwich.

 

[bluenitsuj]

Most dentists have been shut most of the year so how can they run out of credits?

 

[Swansman]

Sorry to hear. As someone currently suffering from absolute massive toothache and unable to afford doing anything about it at the moment, I understand how frustrating it must be. People who never had issues with their teeth might think complaining about tooth ache is "weak", but they really have no ****ing clue..

 

[Swansman]

There has been no increase this year in any bands
There is at present no uda targets.

Dunno if you have the time/will to answer but desperate times desperate measures.

2,5 years ago I woke up with a massive, dark hole in one of my teeth and was suffering from godlike pain for two days before going to the dentist. They made some quick fix and said "you need two do some root filling or it will die and fall off". As I never had £1200 to do it, I just let it die instead.

Two weeks ago half of the tooth fell out when I was eating. The rest of the tooth was pretty loose, so I decided to pull it out myself. However there is some very small scraps from the tooth left in my gum and I think it might be hurting the gum because I've had two three day episodes with excruciating pain and I'm pretty swollen all over the cheek.

My questions:
1. Do you think the "scraps" of my former tooth will fall of by itself at some point?

2. Could there be any other consequences to me from ignoring this, other than the massive pain?

Thankful for any response, I'm dying and cant afford even calling a dentist to ask questions.

 

[METALMICKY]

In a previous life I spent 28 years involved in the administration of NHS dentistry and in particular the monitoring and detection of fraud. On this last issue what was interesting was the number of leads we got from dental nurses who had been dumped by the boss and in one case a vengeful mother in law who said the ex son in law was submitting false claims. Of even more interest was this charming fraudster who's swindle involved Liam and Leroy Rosenior!
BBC News - NHS fraud Bristol dentist spared jail
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-13082078

 

[driller]

Dunno if you have the time/will to answer but desperate times desperate measures.

2,5 years ago I woke up with a massive, dark hole in one of my teeth and was suffering from godlike pain for two days before going to the dentist. They made some quick fix and said "you need two do some root filling or it will die and fall off". As I never had £1200 to do it, I just let it die instead.

Two weeks ago half of the tooth fell out when I was eating. The rest of the tooth was pretty loose, so I decided to pull it out myself. However there is some very small scraps from the tooth left in my gum and I think it might be hurting the gum because I've had two three day episodes with excruciating pain and I'm pretty swollen all over the cheek.

My questions:
1. Do you think the "scraps" of my former tooth will fall of by itself at some point?

2. Could there be any other consequences to me from ignoring this, other than the massive pain?

Thankful for any response, I'm dying and cant afford even calling a dentist to ask questions.

Sounds like the crown of tooth ( the bit above the gun) as decayed and now snapped.
This bit you pulled out.
Most likely you will have left the roots behind in the jaw ( a tooth is Approx 1/3 above the gum 2/3 root below the gum) They are now infected.
You really need to get these out. It could cause spreading infection leading to sepsis which is bad news.
I do not want to scare you but see someone ASAP

 

[Swansman]

Sounds like the crown of tooth ( the bit above the gun) as decayed and now snapped.
This bit you pulled out.
Most likely you will have left the roots behind in the jaw ( a tooth is Approx 1/3 above the gum 2/3 root below the gum) They are now infected.
You really need to get these out. It could cause spreading infection leading to sepsis which is bad news.
I do not want to scare you but see someone ASAP

Ait thank you.

Ok, I'll go do it tomorrow... micro loans ftw...

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Ait thank you.

Ok, I'll go do it tomorrow... micro loans ftw...

I know nothing of the health system in Sweden but can't you go to an emergency dentist for something so bad for free ? Or is that me taking the UK NHS from granted ? Only ask as a couple of years ago I had something similar that ended up me being admitted to A&E and then blue lighted for 40 miles for surgery and a stay in ICU for two nights .... all for free of course.

 

[Weststander]

So Mrs WS is a registered NHS patient with a local dentist practice. Has been there a number of years. She cracked a tooth back in June and phoned up to see a dentist. "Sorry Mrs WS, due to Covid we're only seeing emergencies and a cracked tooth isn't an emergency.". The tooth has now cracked in half ( not a pleasant sight ! ). So Mrs WS phones up today and is told she will have to pay £45 just to see a dentist. "So, you no longer treat NHS patients then ?" - "Oh yes we do, it's just our credits have run out and and so we need to charge. We do charge a reduced rate though.".

What the actual fvck ?? Don't get me started on the fact health preserving dentistry should be FREE on the NHS anyway and that ALL state trained dentists should take NHS patients anyway. So, please, someone in the know explain to me how this system works ( I use the word 'works' very loosely ). As far as I can see dentists are nothing more than money sucking private enterprises.

We've used Westdene Dental Practice for many years. Quite a few years back now, they brought in higher charges for adults, because they'd decided to go private.

I've seen the accounts of many of the dental and orthodontic practices in Sussex, as well as having Swedish friends who came here in the noughties to practice as dentists. There are many Danish and Swedish dentists in places like Lewes, unashamedly here for the very lucrative private practice income and lower taxes.

The change was steady in the 90's and 00's, where private work became very attractive financially and NHS dentists complained about the 2006 contract awarded to them by New Labour. NHS dentists nationally net £126,000, whilst I've seen private practice profits in the multi £100k's per principal per annum and implants specialists in these parts earning £1m plus each.

 

[Chicken Run]

In a previous life I spent 28 years involved in the administration of NHS dentistry and in particular the monitoring and detection of fraud. On this last issue what was interesting was the number of leads we got from dental nurses who had been dumped by the boss and in one case a vengeful mother in law who said the ex son in law was submitting false claims. Of even more interest was this charming fraudster who's swindle involved Liam and Leroy Rosenior!
BBC News - NHS fraud Bristol dentist spared jail
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-13082078

A previous dentist of mine was one Dirk Slabbert....good dentist

 

[Westdene Seagull]

A previous dentist of mine was one Dirk Slabbert....good dentist

Carden Avenue ?

 

[Swansman]

I know nothing of the health system in Sweden but can't you go to an emergency dentist for something so bad for free ? Or is that me taking the UK NHS from granted ? Only ask as a couple of years ago I had something similar that ended up me being admitted to A&E and then blue lighted for 40 miles for surgery and a stay in ICU for two nights .... all for free of course.

Nope, not for free - in Sweden the normal healthcare system and the dental healthcare system are separate. But they can just bill me (I think/hope... I'll see tomorrow).

 

[swindonseagull]

On the basis that toothache is just about the most painful thing in the world we opted for a dental plan with Westdene Dental Practice. It’s a monthly charge but it’s been worth the money over the years. You still have to pay extras like crowns, root treatment and they don’t do implants (that’s pretty expensive).

Totally agree have had insurance plans for 12 years @£15 per month through work that covers the wife and I for ALL nhs treatment through UNUM. pay up front and get the money back in 2-3 days (in full)...

Plus my dentist has been working as near as normal as possible since March, I had a filling postponed in April and was called in in July to get it done, also had my next check up booked for November......So dont tar all dentists with the same brush.....OH and I didn't have to pay for her PPE....(Thats complete crap as the only thing changed is probably gloves, as I watched them sanitise the face shield) for a filling If drilling was involved they would use a filtered mask, otherwise as far as I can remember it was a standard medical mask.

 

[METALMICKY]

A previous dentist of mine was one Dirk Slabbert....good dentist

This fellow. It was the DPB who I worked for
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/6762560.dentist-pulled-up-over-fees/

 

[Chicken Run]

Carden Avenue ?

[emoji106]

 

[Chicken Run]

This fellow. It was the DPB who I worked for
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/6762560.dentist-pulled-up-over-fees/

Indeed ....

 

[Swansman]

Sounds like the crown of tooth ( the bit above the gun) as decayed and now snapped.
This bit you pulled out.
Most likely you will have left the roots behind in the jaw ( a tooth is Approx 1/3 above the gum 2/3 root below the gum) They are now infected.
You really need to get these out. It could cause spreading infection leading to sepsis which is bad news.
I do not want to scare you but see someone ASAP

Thank you for this.

The dentist who quickly pulled my ugly roots out said it was very good that I dont decided to wait a couple of days extra (which I probably would have, if you'd given me a different response) because it was pretty ugly in there and could easily have caused me a lot of issues if I had waited longer.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It's not even as if I expect it to be fixed for free ( although all non-cosmetic dentistry should be under the NHS and so free at the point of delivery ), just that they shouldn't force NHS registered patients down the private route to line their own pockets. And like a previous poster has pointed out - how can any dentist have run out of NHS funding given they've refused to see anyone for months ?

Come on you tight arse, treat the wife to a new molar.

 

[Chicken Run]

Remember to wear your masks when you go to the dentist, they won’t let you in otherwise!!