[Albion] Deniz Undav

[The Optimist]

A stonking win against Leicester and all will be fine again!

We don’t really do stonking wins. Last season every team that finished above us scored at least 15 more goals than us. If we want to improve we need to score more goals - not that I’d complain at another 9th place finish

 

[SweatyMexican]

I think yesterday was probably the game to give Undav a start, but it’s done now.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Whereas Mitoma has come from the same club, the same league and has made an impact every time he's come on like a duck to water.

Different positions, inevitably you get more time and space out wide than you do centrally

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Yup, sometimes it goes quick - like with Caicedo - sometimes slow - like with Ali Mac.

I have to say it is pretty ****ing NSC to write off a player who is entirely new in the country and the league and has played 15 minutes.

Spot on.

Laughable comments.

Bigger question should be around, what has happened to Mwepu. All over the place and not in a good way.

 

[doogie004]

Whereas a defeat will lead to..well you know what

Would depend on the manner of defeat play or set up like we did in the first half last night then yes you can expect criticism


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[Herr Tubthumper]

We don’t really do stonking wins. Last season every team that finished above us scored at least 15 more goals than us. If we want to improve we need to score more goals - not that I’d complain at another 9th place finish

Man U and West Ham were both stonking imho. Even a 2-0 and I’ll be very happy.

 

[Seasider78]

GP has commented he wants another Wellbeck type striker which suggests he wants to rotate his preferred system. Impressions from watching Undav for USG last season was he has great finishing ability but work rate out of possession was lacking. This is something he is probably working on with the coaching staff as Groß detailed in his interview defending starts from the front in this system.

Seems a bit of a square peg in a round hole at the moment but still very early days

 

[Iggle Piggle]

The bottom line is that his work rate was so low at FGR he did nowhere near enough to make his way to the first team. On the night he was 3rd best of Ferguson and Enciso . The bigger question is why neither of them are trusted with the 9 role either

 

[Insel affe]

A stone of muscle is quite different to a stone of kebab fat.

Kebab.....

 

[wellquickwoody]

No. GP refers to "20 goals a season strikers" and asks if Tony should sign Salah or Kane ?

To be fair, no one sensible actually says that at all, and GP knows that.

 

[nwgull]

We don’t really do stonking wins. Last season every team that finished above us scored at least 15 more goals than us. If we want to improve we need to score more goals - not that I’d complain at another 9th place finish

Beating Man U 4-0 rated quite high on my stonk-o-meter.

 

[southstandandy]

Why has he had so little minutes ? Where as Maupay went straight in under Potter (and scored first game) ?

Maybe he needs a season on loan to be playing regularly?

 

[kevo]

Undav

Presumably deemed not (yet?) good enough to start in Welbeck's absence. Which leaves us with a big hole now that Maupay's departed.

What would have been the harm of starting with him in the Welbeck role last night and then changing things if it wasn't working? He definitely needs the experience and he's not going to get up to speed unless we give him game time.

I thought he was meant to be a solution to our striker problem? Pretty odd all round, really.

Have we got a dud?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Have we got a dud?

Viagra?

 

[Da Man Clay]

He looks miles off the pace. Can’t say I’m surprised he didn’t start yesterday.

 

[el punal]

I’ve got Graham’s phone number here . . . . somewhere . . . perhaps you can give him a quick ring.

 

[British Bulldog]

He's a player that's come a long way in a short time, Too early to write him off.

 

[Clive Walker]

Not really sure why we brought him in if:

A- DW is benched and he doesn’t start
B- we only want strikers in the DW mould
C- he was no better that neal maupay who wasn’t suited to our style either.

 

[Swansman]

Something wrong with the current Undav thread?

Anyway. Far too early to say anything really... this is a bloke who has played in a first league (and a pretty meh one at that) for one season and though he isn't the youngest player, it will take time for him to adapt to one of the best leagues in the world. He'll learn everyday in training.

Astonishing, yet sadly not surprising, how many people that are making conclusions less than one month into the season and after seeing less than 20 minutes of him in the PL.

 

[southstandandy]

Needs a loan move to play regularly in the Championship to get up to speed with English football. Could be good next season. Since GP uses so few recognised forwards I can't see the harm especially as most of our goals come from the midfield.