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Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
Well here's one...which funnily enough is called "Best Supported Teams". Admittedly it looks like the fella earlier was being a tad ambitious with his claim of top 3 or 4.

https://www.footballgroundmap.com/stats/teams/

Hopefully next season, once we can all get back to live games, you lot might be able try a tiny bit harder and see if you can climb above the mighty QPR and Charlton to get yourselves in the top 30 :lolol: Should be a doddle now that you're such a well established and mighty premiership club

Normal people enjoy watching football. Geeks like you count the number of people watching. Each to their own.
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,756
Eastbourne
Well here's one...which funnily enough is called "Best Supported Teams". Admittedly it looks like the fella earlier was being a tad ambitious with his claim of top 3 or 4.

https://www.footballgroundmap.com/stats/teams/

Hopefully next season, once we can all get back to live games, you lot might be able try a tiny bit harder and see if you can climb above the mighty QPR and Charlton to get yourselves in the top 30 [emoji38]ol: Should be a doddle now that you're such a well established and mighty premiership club
If that's the best you can do then I'd give up. Makes no sense whatsoever.
 














rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,988

WARNING!!

There is a response to this tweet from a sane LUFC supporter. Who'd have though it eh?

You may not have heard of them, but that doesn't mean Biesla made them. Ben White was putting in man of the match performances in his first match. He was already a very good player. Definitely improved under Biesla, but not made by him.

That's put the loonies back in their box. Well done that fella.
 




Shuggie

Well-known member
Sep 19, 2003
685
East Sussex coast
Well here's one...which funnily enough is called "Best Supported Teams". Admittedly it looks like the fella earlier was being a tad ambitious with his claim of top 3 or 4.

https://www.footballgroundmap.com/stats/teams/

Hopefully next season, once we can all get back to live games, you lot might be able try a tiny bit harder and see if you can climb above the mighty QPR and Charlton to get yourselves in the top 30 :lolol: Should be a doddle now that you're such a well established and mighty premiership club

That is a list of the number of registered users on that site :wanker:
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,763
Chandlers Ford
WARNING!!

There is a response to this tweet from a sane LUFC supporter. Who'd have though it eh?

You may not have heard of them, but that doesn't mean Biesla made them. Ben White was putting in man of the match performances in his first match. He was already a very good player. Definitely improved under Biesla, but not made by him.

That's put the loonies back in their box. Well done that fella.

I'm unconvinced that is a Leeds fan. He can't even spell their manager's name.





(insert tap-in about 'Houghton', here)
 


sams dad

I hate Palarse
Feb 7, 2004
6,383
The Hill of The Gun
Morning, Leeds fan in peace.

It absolutely shocked me to see a thread like this I guess Brighton are another team that are shaken and worried by one of the top 3 or 4 biggest clubs in the country being back in the big time. Only a few more tinpot nothing clubs like yourself to remove from the prem and order will be restored, however the league looks a lot healthier with our name in it.

The best English side ever (1970s Leeds), a fantastic 90s team, worldwide support comparable to only liverpool and real Madrid and barcelona, manchester utd and Juventus ac milan, could add Celtic in too. We fell on hard times but we have often been unlucky as a club, cheated out of numerous European and league and cups in the 70s, a few times in the 90s too, and more recently with our corrupt owners but now we are back, I firmly believe that especially with the worlds best manager we will get top four within the next two seasons and back challenging again, we are like a Dortmund or Napoli of England who they also fell on hard times and well now look.

As for young Ben White, he is begging to stay up here and it paves the way for a cut price deal as I can see him refusing to play for your club again, hes had a taste of the big time now and can't get enough, I can see him being our future captain. Thank you for sending him too us. Good luck for the season, I'm sure you'll be back down with the likes of Bournemouth soon.
**** off , ****.
 


Killer Whale

Banned
Jul 27, 2020
213
If someone has to look out a dictionary to understand what you are on about, then you are not best expressing what you are trying to communicate. The dictionary definition says 'unique', a perfectly adequate and easily understood word that would have expressed exactly what you wanted to say and made you sound less like Boris Johnson. As you have been keen to advertise your literary credentials, could I recommend Orwell? https://www.writingclasses.com/toolbox/tips-masters/george-orwell-6-questions-6-rules

Obviously after you've read the aptly named: https://whiterosemaths.com/homelearning/year-1/. Your plan for a starting twelve seems to need more urgent correction.

It wouldn't have expressed what I wanted to say because it doesn't mean the same thing.

There is a perfectly adequate Latin word for unique, unicus. You may have noticed the similarity to English, it is kind of hard to miss.

Sui generis means of its kind, of its type, of its nature. If I said that generis is the word from which the English term "generic" is derived, does that make the difference clearer? It can be unique, special, different, but it isn't necessarily. Rather like Bielsa's football. His high press is not unique, many teams employ it, but it is special it is, well I will say it again, sui generis.

English is a truly wonderful language with a vast vocabulary, but there are still words of foreign origin which we use because we don't have the exact equivalent ourselves.
Often they are from Latin, in fact you use some of them yourself, I'll bet. Have you never used the term "status quo?" Or et cetera? Would THEY be pretentious? Then think of a French word like "chic." We don't have a better term for the concept, so we borrow it. The French do it in return, using English words.

Isn't one of the points of life to learn? I read widely, and I come across words and terms I don't know all the time and have to look up. I don't get angry at the writer, I don't think he or she is pretentious, I think that is an interesting word. What do they mean by that? Why don't you do the same?

I have read all of Orwell's (major) novels and most of his significant essays. I love the guy. But he is wrong here. He argues for an impoverishment of language it seems to me, and always has. There is a difference between being deliberately obfuscatory (which is rightly to be condemned) and failing to utilise all the richness of our beautiful language. (Of which he was a great exponent, by the way, writing prose as clear as a window pane).

Sure I could dumb down what I say, just use the simplest most everyday words and terms in my posts. A vocabulary of a few hundred words. But wouldn't that be incredibly patronising?
 




Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
It wouldn't have expressed what I wanted to say because it doesn't mean the same thing.

There is a perfectly adequate Latin word for unique, unicus. You may have noticed the similarity to English, it is kind of hard to miss.

Sui generis means of its kind, of its type, of its nature. If I said that generis is the word from which the English term "generic" is derived, does that make the difference clearer? It can be unique, special, different, but it isn't necessarily. Rather like Bielsa's football. His high press is not unique, many teams employ it, but it is special it is, well I will say it again, sui generis.

English is a truly wonderful language with a vast vocabulary, but there are still words of foreign origin which we use because we don't have the exact equivalent ourselves.
Often they are from Latin, in fact you use some of them yourself, I'll bet. Have you never used the term "status quo?" Or et cetera? Would THEY be pretentious? Then think of a French word like "chic." We don't have a better term for the concept, so we borrow it. The French do it in return, using English words.

Isn't one of the points of life to learn? I read widely, and I come across words and terms I don't know all the time and have to look up. I don't get angry at the writer, I don't think he or she is pretentious, I think that is an interesting word. What do they mean by that? Why don't you do the same?

I have read all of Orwell's (major) novels and most of his significant essays. I love the guy. But he is wrong here. He argues for an impoverishment of language it seems to me, and always has. There is a difference between being deliberately obfuscatory (which is rightly to be condemned) and failing to utilise all the richness of our beautiful language. (Of which he was a great exponent, by the way, writing prose as clear as a window pane).

Sure I could dumb down what I say, just use the simplest most everyday words and terms in my posts. A vocabulary of a few hundred words. But wouldn't that be incredibly patronising?

And the rest of your post isn’t ?
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
37,348
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I will be happy if we stay up next season. This is something Villa did, albeit only by the skin of their teeth.

My argument would be that we will have a more judicious transfer policy than Villa. They spent a ton of money (£130 million, was it?) and most of the incomers were failures who disturbed the balance of the team. By contrast, we will look for bargains, hopefully in South America where players can be cheaper and Bielsa's name resonates, so they will be easier to recruit. Or we will go for young players from nearer to home, whom Bielsa can coach.

Norwich actually have a manager I quite rate, but they seem happy to become a yo yo club, not investing much as I understand it (I haven't followed the Premier League that closely, I admit). I would expect us to (perhaps) invest more, and certainly more wisely. And for the enhanced squad to meld together into a whole greater than the sum of the parts.

In the season they won the Championship we beat them three nil at Carrow Road, and were a much better team than them for most of the season, tailing off at the end. Who knows why? So we start from a higher base, and have a great manager rather than just a very good one.

The two sides who have come up with us are going to struggle. Football is all about management, and I don't think either of theirs is up to much. I would be very surprised if they do anything but struggle. Brentford fell away (as we did last season) but I consider them a better team than the both of them. (With a better manager for the matter of that).

You argue that the gulf is big between the two leagues and this is apparent in the very first season. But that isn't axiomatic. There are many examples of promoted clubs doing surprisingly well in their first season actually, as the League works out how to play them.

I put it to you that this could well be the same with Leeds. Our 3 1 3 1 3 system is sui generis. (I am sorry to use more Latin, I know some find it irritating, but it best expresses the concept I am trying to communicate). I know Bielsa is a well known coach, but I doubt many Premier League clubs will have been that exercised by Leeds United up to now so as to devise tactics to use against us. I think they will under estimate us.

I therefore expect us to survive for the above reasons, and hope to surprise you by doing it in relative comfort. But we will see about that, as we will see how we do against your good selves.

A replacement for White is a concern, yes, but is eminently achievable. But it all depends on Bielsa. If he doesn't sign, or leaves on a whim during the season all bets are off.

He is that good.

Having to do real, paid work this afternoon meant I was beaten to the punch regarding the sui generis nature of 3 1 3 1 3 - yeah, that certainly is unique (which would have done) what with it involving 12 men :)

But thanks for a considered, non-trolling reply which has probably put paid to the cries of "Palace!".

Norwich and Villa started off trying to play their way out of trouble but both massively struggled for goals. Pukki might have had his own way in the Championship but the PL defenders were far too good for him. Wesley struggled too (and was then never really replaced). I'm willing to bet that Bamford will be dealt with by every defence in this division so you'll need a striker - probably.

Probably?

You had goals from plenty of sources. This is where we (both Brighton and the Premier League) underestimated Sheffield United. An untried McBurnie and players in Sharp and McGoldrick who wouldn't particularly make you worry didn't seem that hard to deal with. But the way they play, using the 9 to hold it up while players from all over move forward, then making chippy little fouls to break it up and get back in position when they lost it, wasn't dealt with nearly well enough. The forwards got a few but they enabled chances and goals from Lundstram, Fleck and the wingbacks.

But (and sorry for this stereotype) I suspect many underestimated Sheffield United and their relatively under the radar journey from League One. The fact that you ARE the mighty Leeds United and were very much going up at the time of lockdown suspension leads me to suspect everyone will have been studying you hard. Does Bielsa have a Plan B? He'll need one.
 
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Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
37,348
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I expect he has a full alphabet of plans, don’t you?

Is his alphabet bigger than Potter's though? Is this a sub-competition? Can you legitimately bet on "who will use the most formations in a season"?

We sent White there to develop him, because of the football promised under Bielsa. I think we'll have a fair idea of what to expect. The likes of Klopp and Pep (who knows him inside out) certainly won't struggle.
 




redoubtable seagull

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2004
2,611
WARNING!!

There is a response to this tweet from a sane LUFC supporter. Who'd have though it eh?

You may not have heard of them, but that doesn't mean Biesla made them. Ben White was putting in man of the match performances in his first match. He was already a very good player. Definitely improved under Biesla, but not made by him.

That's put the loonies back in their box. Well done that fella.

And a typically vitriolic response from the original poster I see.

Are other PL teams fans seeing similar excitable nonsense from Leeds supporters. They are fast on track to being the team everyone loves to hate.
 


Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
7,374
It wouldn't have expressed what I wanted to say because it doesn't mean the same thing.

There is a perfectly adequate Latin word for unique, unicus. You may have noticed the similarity to English, it is kind of hard to miss.

Sui generis means of its kind, of its type, of its nature. If I said that generis is the word from which the English term "generic" is derived, does that make the difference clearer? It can be unique, special, different, but it isn't necessarily. Rather like Bielsa's football. His high press is not unique, many teams employ it, but it is special it is, well I will say it again, sui generis.

English is a truly wonderful language with a vast vocabulary, but there are still words of foreign origin which we use because we don't have the exact equivalent ourselves.
Often they are from Latin, in fact you use some of them yourself, I'll bet. Have you never used the term "status quo?" Or et cetera? Would THEY be pretentious? Then think of a French word like "chic." We don't have a better term for the concept, so we borrow it. The French do it in return, using English words.

Isn't one of the points of life to learn? I read widely, and I come across words and terms I don't know all the time and have to look up. I don't get angry at the writer, I don't think he or she is pretentious, I think that is an interesting word. What do they mean by that? Why don't you do the same?

I have read all of Orwell's (major) novels and most of his significant essays. I love the guy. But he is wrong here. He argues for an impoverishment of language it seems to me, and always has. There is a difference between being deliberately obfuscatory (which is rightly to be condemned) and failing to utilise all the richness of our beautiful language. (Of which he was a great exponent, by the way, writing prose as clear as a window pane).

Sure I could dumb down what I say, just use the simplest most everyday words and terms in my posts. A vocabulary of a few hundred words. But wouldn't that be incredibly patronising?

Elitist claptrap. Sounds like that self serving article that Will Self wrote on the subject. By all means seek subtlety of vocabulary if we're writing poetry or literature, but we're not. We're writing opinions on a football fan forum. Our priority should be to communicate our message in the clearest way, and to allow ease of understanding for the widest possible audience. If we are truly concerned with expressing ourselves precisely, we would be better served checking back what we've written and removing obvious errors rather than pleasuring ourselves with our own choice of vocabulary.

Incidentally, you're not the only person on here who has a background in literature. To quote a great man from Yorkshire 'I read a book once. Green it was.'
 
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