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[Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans



Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
I saw one guy say it was obvious that Bielsa will still the better manager because he’d managed at more World Cups than Potter… and this was recently too! :lolol:

Pep, Klopp & Sir Alex obviously not a match for Mohammed Al-Kharashi

I had a quick read of one of their forums yesterday from a link posted on here. There are plenty of their fans still so deluded that they blame anybody but Bielsa for their crap team. It’s the owner or the weird American that has been there about 5 minutes. Can’t be Bielsa’s fault for building a team that got smashed out of sight in game after game. They are very needy.
 






Happy Exile

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Apr 19, 2018
2,134
What I've seen missing in all the serious analysis of the way Leeds have spectacularly collapsed is the correlation between how there are fewer top-knots and questionable hairstyles in their line-up now than when they got promoted. I think this change may explain the disconnect between their clear right to be champions and the reality of their predicament.
 


Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
3,643
I had a quick read of one of their forums yesterday from a link posted on here. There are plenty of their fans still so deluded that they blame anybody but Bielsa for their crap team. It’s the owner or the weird American that has been there about 5 minutes. Can’t be Bielsa’s fault for building a team that got smashed out of sight in game after game. They are very needy.

It is bizarre they won’t accept that Bielsa created this. He insisted on a small squad. He insisted on beasting players. Players get injured and it is highly likely due to extreme workload.

My best mate is a Leeds fan. He is a cult member like the rest of them. It is a cult, they just can’t see any wrong in Bielsa. It is nuts.
 


monty uk

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Sep 25, 2018
641
What I've seen missing in all the serious analysis of the way Leeds have spectacularly collapsed is the correlation between how there are fewer top-knots and questionable hairstyles in their line-up now than when they got promoted. I think this change may explain the disconnect between their clear right to be champions and the reality of their predicament.

Let's hope they don't all wear Alice bands on Sunday. That would seriously jeopardize our campaign for a top ten finish.
 




FatSuperman

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Feb 25, 2016
2,922
The Leeds team have probably heard quotes from Kipling, but think it's Mr Kipling. Either way, I don't think it is going to help them much now.
er now.

Jesse Lasso: "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs..."

Leeds starting 11: "LET'S FKIN DO THIS COME ON YOU SLAAAAAAGGSSS. ENGERLAAND ENGERLAAND ENGERRRRLLAAAAANNNNDD. LET'S 'AVE IT. COMEEE ONNNNNNNNNNN!"
 


Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
7,367
What I've seen missing in all the serious analysis of the way Leeds have spectacularly collapsed is the correlation between how there are fewer top-knots and questionable hairstyles in their line-up now than when they got promoted. I think this change may explain the disconnect between their clear right to be champions and the reality of their predicament.

:lol: I'm not sure how scientific that is. Conversely I tried blaming young Peupion's poorish first half in the Sussex Senior Cup on his top knot, but then he scored a really good goal in the second half without a restyle being at all apparent.

Seriously, Leeds' problems have been all about injuries. Unlucky some might say. Others might say that massively over-training a small squad for three seasons, refusing to ensure that you had decent back up options for the most important players and never thinking that key absences might require a change in style is asking for trouble.

Bielsa is obviously a hugely influential and ground breaking coach, but the most successful coaches that have been influenced by his ideas are not so dogmatic as to refuse to adapt even slightly when Plan A is not working. He had no other player who could play the quarterback role that Kalvin Phillips was perfect for. This was obvious to us from the two games we played against a Phillips-less Leeds last season. Despite this, he didn't buy cover and he persisted with the style even in Phillips' absence. Before Bielsa was sacked this season Leeds had gained 15 points from the 12 games that Phillips featured in. They had 8 points from the 14 games in which he didn't play. Over a season, that's a difference between finishing with 47 points or 22 points. There are plenty of other players who, like Phillips, may not be great at much else, but can play this specialist quarterback role. After his 2020 bid for Ben White failed, Bielsa didn't bother to have his scouts find one, top-knot or no.
 


JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
6,226
Seaford
I was listening to the Football Daily the other day, after Leeds had shat the bed (again) against Chelsea. Talk eventually got to our game and one of the blokes on there was entirely convinced that we'd be too intimidated by Elland Road and it'd be a close run thing.

It might well be. But it won't be because the slack jawed locals have scared us.

Spot on. Terrifying place to go. It's why since 2005 we've lost [checks notes]... oh... 3 out of the 12 times we've played there and won 5 of our last 7. That atmosphere really does get to us... :lolol:
 




JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
6,226
Seaford
I had a quick read of one of their forums yesterday from a link posted on here. There are plenty of their fans still so deluded that they blame anybody but Bielsa for their crap team. It’s the owner or the weird American that has been there about 5 minutes. Can’t be Bielsa’s fault for building a team that got smashed out of sight in game after game. They are very needy.

Smashed out of sight game after game, insisted on a teeny squad, worked them like dogs week in, week out in training, refused to ever even slightly change tactics and chose not to make any signings so as not to disrupt the team... Whether they like it of not, Bielsa has played a massive part in taking them down to the Championship (if they do go down)
 


Happy Exile

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Apr 19, 2018
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:lol: I'm not sure how scientific that is. Conversely I tried blaming young Peupion's poorish first half in the Sussex Senior Cup on his top knot, but then he scored a really good goal in the second half without a restyle being at all apparent.

Seriously, Leeds' problems have been all about injuries. Unlucky some might say. Others might say that massively over-training a small squad for three seasons, refusing to ensure that you had decent back up options for the most important players and never thinking that key absences might require a change in style is asking for trouble.

Bielsa is obviously a hugely influential and ground breaking coach, but the most successful coaches that have been influenced by his ideas are not so dogmatic as to refuse to adapt even slightly when Plan A is not working. He had no other player who could play the quarterback role that Kalvin Phillips was perfect for. This was obvious to us from the two games we played against a Phillips-less Leeds last season. Despite this, he didn't buy cover and he persisted with the style even in Phillips' absence. Before Bielsa was sacked this season Leeds had gained 15 points from the 12 games that Phillips featured in. They had 8 points from the 14 games in which he didn't play. Over a season, that's a difference between finishing with 47 points or 22 points. There are plenty of other players who, like Phillips, may not be great at much else, but can play this specialist quarterback role. After his 2020 bid for Ben White failed, Bielsa didn't bother to have his scouts find one, top-knot or no.

It's very scientific. Leeds v Chelsea, 2021. Score is 0-0. Jack Harrison?

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Leeds v Chelsea 2022. Score is 0-3. Jack Harrison?

jh2022.jpg

It's pretty compelling.
 
















Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,357
Worthing
for [MENTION=21239]Originunknown[/MENTION] not quite delusion, but some preparation for Sunday

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Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
7,367
for [MENTION=21239]Originunknown[/MENTION] not quite delusion, but some preparation for Sunday

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I don't know much about Leeds, but I've been for a curry in Headingly in the 90s and they served the meals on paper plates to stop the locals from throwing crockery at each other. There wasn't a small batch coffee shop or avacado on sour dough to be had for love nor money. No beach, no overpriced craft ale, no juggling buskers, no swarms of confused EF students being bombed by maniac cyclists and abused by angry motorists who are queuing in the raging heat for one of the four parking spaces. If Beeston's the same, it already sounds like a jarring hell on earth for anyone from Brighton.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
It'd be good for Leeds to go 1 up early and then for us to get an 88th minute equaliser and 94th minute winner lol.
 




essbee1

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Jun 25, 2014
4,725
It'd be good for Leeds to go 1 up early and then for us to get an 88th minute equaliser and 94th minute winner lol.

I think they'll be nervous as hell and that might be their downfall.
But hey, if they stay up then it will because they've fought for it,
just in time.
 




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