[Albion] Defensive system for Leicester & CPFC2010

[BBassic]

This is how I saw it.

Had a real "Potter playing Sterling at wingback" vibe to it

 

[AmexRuislip]

Yes, but we've also ballsed up against Wolves and conceded a lead against Saints with those two. Dunk is our captain and leader and needs to be on the pitch. Its possible that Igor might have forced his way ahead of van Hecke, because he is left footed.

We could go on all night with this.
We're in a safe area here on NSC, FH doesn't have that luxury.

 

[BBassic]

That's just not possible in modern premier league, the manager dictates the positioning

It's not possible for a player who isn't known for his defensive prowess to not track back enough and instead concentrate on the wing bit of the wingback position?

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

We could go on all night with this.
We're in a safe area here on NSC, FH doesn't have that luxury.

All night? Six in the morning here and I've just switched the cricket on

 

[Weststander]

Yes, but we've also ballsed up against Wolves and conceded a lead against Saints with those two. Dunk is our captain and leader and needs to be on the pitch. Its possible that Igor might have forced his way ahead of van Hecke, because he is left footed.

And Igor’s playing very well, even tonight in the otherwise defensive heads gone.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

It's not possible for a player who isn't known for his defensive prowess to not track back enough and instead concentrate on the wing bit of the wingback position?

I just maintain that there was no difference between Adingra playing in front of van Hecke and Adingra playing in front of Veltman.

And if we were playing wing backs, what the hell was Mitoma doing hugging the left touchline all game?

I need more convincing we weren't playing our standard 4-3-3

 

[AmexRuislip]

All night? Six in the morning here and I've just switched the cricket on

I've just seen Dunks post match interview, let's just say VAR ain't getting a christmas card this year!

 

[BBassic]

I just maintain that there was no difference between Adingra playing in front of van Hecke and Adingra playing in front of Veltman.

And if we were playing wing backs, what the hell was Mitoma doing hugging the left touchline all game?

I need more convincing we weren't playing our standard 4-3-3

It very much looked like three at the back to me but I'm not going to argue the toss about it, it's too late in the day.

Whatever formation it was, that side of the pitch was woefully exposed with Adingra not doing his defensive duties and JVPH looking isolated and uncomfortable

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

It very much looked like three at the back to me but I'm not going to argue the toss about it, it's too late in the day.

Whatever formation it was, that side of the pitch was woefully exposed with Adingra not doing his defensive duties and JVPH looking isolated and uncomfortable

Fully agree with the last point... he looked horribly uncomfortable... because he's not a right back....

 

[METALMICKY]

It very much looked like three at the back to me but I'm not going to argue the toss about it, it's too late in the day.

Whatever formation it was, that side of the pitch was woefully exposed with Adingra not doing his defensive duties and JVPH looking isolated and uncomfortable

The worst incident with Adingra was when he was beaten by oily git Traore. The commentator suggested he dropped his shoulder nicely. In reality he just stepped back the other way in slow motion and Adingra was rooted to the spot.

 

[tigertim68]

Does not really matter what system we play , we won’t win , defensively not very good , and we don’t score enough goals,
probably lose

 

[AZ Gull]

We did play a back 4 tonight? In what way was van Hecke anything but a right back tonight, and adingra anything but a standard right winger?

I'm equally confused by the calls to drop Dunk. Maybe I just had the wrong match on

Well, Lewis Dunk thinks it was a back 3 (and they "worked on it all week") - from 4 mins 15 secs here:-

 

[trueblue]

No doubt Hurzeler’s going to get some stick but switching formation was a reasonably logical decision to reach, pre-match. No Veltman, Ferdi or Hinshelwood. Lamptey never convinces as a conventional full-back. He’s got two centrebacks playing really well and our best defender for many years ready to return so 3 at the back looked a potential solution. Wasn’t great (although - mistakes aside - thought we looked no less secure than usual until late in the game, when it changed anyway).

Lamptey at wingback might have been more obvious but then people would have moaned about all the attacking talent left out.

Fab tried it. Didn’t get the result this time against a good PL side. May try it again if circumstances dictate that we can’t put out a strong back 4.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Well, Lewis Dunk thinks it was a back 3 (and they "worked on it all week") - from 4 mins 15 secs here:-

What did you think? I looked at the heat maps and van Hecke's screams 'right-back'. Estupinan seemed to be in exactly the same positions as he ever is, and linking up with Mitoma exactly the same as he always does, I couldn't see any change in his role to become 'wing-back'. Mitoma was hugging the wing as ever. Adingra meanwhile was very advanced, it tended to be Baleba shifting out right more to support defensively, and perhaps the change was more in the centre with O'Riley playing a lot deeper than the 10 normally plays in our system, meaning it was more of a midfield three than two.

 

[jcdenton08]

What did you think? I looked at the heat maps and van Hecke's screams 'right-back'. Estupinan seemed to be in exactly the same positions as he ever is, and linking up with Mitoma exactly the same as he always does, I couldn't see any change in his role to become 'wing-back'. Mitoma was hugging the wing as ever. Adingra meanwhile was very advanced, it tended to be Baleba shifting out right more to support defensively, and perhaps the change was more in the centre with O'Riley playing a lot deeper than the 10 normally plays in our system, meaning it was more of a midfield three than two.

I don’t understand. Above is an interview from the team captain talking about how they played a back three. Why are you continuing with this?

 

[Justice]

Yes, but we've also ballsed up against Wolves and conceded a lead against Saints with those two. Dunk is our captain and leader and needs to be on the pitch. Its possible that Igor might have forced his way ahead of van Hecke, because he is left footed.

Yet didn’t need to be on the pitch with wins over Bournemouth and Man City

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I don’t understand. Above is an interview from the team captain talking about how they played a back three. Why are you continuing with this?

Because it completely didn't marry with what I watched with my own eyes. Just find it interesting

 

[jcdenton08]

Because it completely didn't marry with what I watched with my own eyes. Just find it interesting

I don’t think Dunk has any reason to lie about this?

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Yet didn’t need to be on the pitch with wins over Bournemouth and Man City

So we can add ' doesn't rate our captain' to ' doesn't rate our manager'?

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I don’t think Dunk has any reason to lie about this?

I know. Its weird (but clearly just to me )

If you play a back three with wingbacks you expect a change on the left side as well as the right, but Estupinan and Mitoma were just normal Estupinan and Mitoma.

Its OK if you don't care about this, we still lost regardless