Death Of The Premier League

[Hannibal smith]

The premiership is on borrowed time.

Lets face it, in the short term its not. There are at least 6 clubs (Big 4 + Man C + Tot) who will spend upwards of £30 milliom a season (in some cases on one player) to get into or stay in the Champions league. Maybe the clubs that don't make it might do a Leeds but there are plenty more clubs that will go do the gamble of spend for success road to take their place. After all the Premier League don't miss Leeds and Wigan piss away upwards of £5 million on one player.

The Premier league isn't sustainable in the long term but right now I can't see any other league in the world that is falling over themselves to sign players at over inflated prices albeit if it is an unedifying spectacle.

 

[rusty redeyes]

and Arsenal sell out at the Emirates and have a waiting list of over 40,000 wanting tickets.

If, AND THIS IS A BIG IF, if we ever got to the premier league how much would you pay to watch or how much would you expect to pay our beloved Albion?

Or would you want a benefactor to bank roll us and keep ticket prices down?

 

[Safeway]

We had all this in 1995 when Blackburn bought themselves the Premier League title.

The game will be FINE. Like Blackburn, the Chelseas and Man Citys will come and go, but the general shape of things will stay the same - Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton and even that most horrendous bunch of whingebags Spurs will remain the country's biggest clubs.

It's EVEN possible that in a few years' time Albion will receive a massive cash injection and become good for a little while, but we'll eventually slip back into shitness again.

These Arabs and the like will soon get bored of their playthings and find something else to amuse themselves. As long as nothing REALLY bad happens, like a club going out of business as a result, there's no harm done and things will carry on like they have for the last 120-odd years.

Life is a rollercoaster, just got to ride it.

 

[Sir Sarcy]

Thanks everyone for what has been an interesting debate on the state of the game.

This thread should be kept as an example of the other side of this message board away from the dire posts that normally appear.......... there are some funny ones as well though so keep churning them out guys!

 

[Keeping The Dream Alive.]

Im waiting for BoF's reply. Top thread BTW, people who dont agree that this game is going down the pan are generally not the most traditional of football fans.

 

[Robbie G]

How long will Sky continue to pump money into it?

Well obviously a lot of their money comes from sky subscriptions. So as long as people want to watch any sport on sky, sky will in part be helping to fund the football.

I'm just indifferent to the premiership nowadays

 

[Paxton Dazo]

This Thread is only...Err, 16 years late.

 

[Pavilionaire]

So the Premier League died 16 years ago?

I'd argue that it contracted a terminal illness in 1997 when the Champions League expanded its format to include runners-up and died when Roman Abramovich took over control of Chelsea.

In the years 1992/93 -1996/97 non-big 4 teams who finished in the Top 3 include Aston Villa, Norwich City, Blackburn Rovers (twice), Newcastle United (3 times) and Nottingham Forest.

Since then only Leeds and Newcastle have managed to scrape a 3rd place once each, the last time being 5 years ago.

For the last 3 years its been a straight fight between Man Utd and Chelsea, and this season looks to be heading the same way.

Many Liverpool fans want Benitez out because Liverpool haven't won a title for 18 years. The sad reality is that they have NO chance of winning a title with him, and ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE without him.

The other truth that Sky would rather we don't know is that Arsenal have also got f*** ALL chance of winning the title. The cost of their stadium and the lack of foreign millions means that until their Abromovich comes along they can forget it.

 

[BadFish]

I can't think of too many other sports where there is such a lack of competition at the top, domestically.

About 40% of the Guinness Premiership Rugby sides have a shout of winning the rugby and two-thirds of the teams in crickets elite STILL harbour genuine title ambitions in September.

All of the main US sports are very open, ditto Aussie sports.

The problem is that Champions League money has ruined most of the European Leagues as an open competitive spectacle, but then what is the answer?

I think the answer is that the top teams all go and play in a European super league soap opera - call it Euronation Street. and play there silly bloody games with just the stupid and the media watching them, watching the games but talking about everything else except the football.

Meanwhile we can have a game for clubs that run themselves within their means, have salery caps and spending caps to ensure a level playing field. We can also bring through British youngsters and improve the England team. And we can talk about the game, the sublime bit of skill from ****** the fantastic flowing passing move by the Albion. And of course we can sell it at a reasonable price to SBS so i can watch it without subscribing to Fox sport who started all this nonsense in the first place.

Well thats what i think anyway

 

[Paxton Dazo]

So the Premier League died 16 years ago?

I'd argue that it contracted a terminal illness in 1997 when the Champions League expanded its format to include runners-up and died when Roman Abramovich took over control of Chelsea.

In the years 1992/93 -1996/97 non-big 4 teams who finished in the Top 3 include Aston Villa, Norwich City, Blackburn Rovers (twice), Newcastle United (3 times) and Nottingham Forest.

Since then only Leeds and Newcastle have managed to scrape a 3rd place once each, the last time being 5 years ago.

For the last 3 years its been a straight fight between Man Utd and Chelsea, and this season looks to be heading the same way.

Many Liverpool fans want Benitez out because Liverpool haven't won a title for 18 years. The sad reality is that they have NO chance of winning a title with him, and ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE without him.

The other truth that Sky would rather we don't know is that Arsenal have also got f*** ALL chance of winning the title. The cost of their stadium and the lack of foreign millions means that until their Abromovich comes along they can forget it.

Fair point.

 

[Keeping The Dream Alive.]

Fair point.

nananananananananana

 

[algie]

The Times did a fantastic artical on this recently but i can't find it

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Some of us would find it the funniest thing since Adrian Mutu paid £13.68m for a line if these trashy millionaires were to lose their unearned ride on the gravy train overnight.

 

[Gully]

...errr, it doesn't seem to have happened at Chelsea since the grinning loon pitched up, costs a minor fortune to watch a game there apparently.

 

[Paxton Dazo]

Its , only going to get worse aswell.

Just going to get people buying a football club as there hobbie

 

[British Bulldog]

...errr, it doesn't seem to have happened at Chelsea since the grinning loon pitched up, costs a minor fortune to watch a game there apparently.

It's certainly not cheap to get in to Stamford Bridge, It cost me about £70 for tickets for me & the nipper to watch a premier league game there last season.

 

[Wozza]

Its , only going to get worse aswell. Just going to get people buying a football club as there hobbie

That's been happening for 100 years.

The problem is, it's now people who don't really love/understand the game.

 

[Sir Sarcy]

So in reality then where will the game be in 10 years time?

Personally i think a European Super League is not far off and the game will be healthier for loosing those teams. You may have to buy entry into the league thus creating its own prize money and putting off the smaller teams who would much rather fight it out in a fair and open domestic top league, actually, i quite like the sound of that......... Get me Sep Blatter on the phone i think i can improve the standard of slavery!

 

[Dave the OAP]

So in reality then where will the game be in 10 years time?

Personally i think a European Super League is not far off and the game will be healthier for loosing those teams. You may have to buy entry into the league thus creating its own prize money and putting off the smaller teams who would much rather fight it out in a fair and open domestic top league, actually, i quite like the sound of that......... Get me Sep Blatter on the phone i think i can improve the standard of slavery!

I tend to agree with that.

The European league cant be that far off. The FA have no real power anymore with teh Premier League the real power brokers. In fact, if you look at the way the likes of Fergusson who argue vehemently when their players are selected for internationla sides and then get injured, you can see how this is developing.

Using the argument about localised devolved league, could to a certain degree work against us as our only local teams that are presently in the 3rd Divi are Orient and millwall. You cannot support a 25k stadium with gates of 6k for these games.

That is why it is imperative that we are playing in the Championship at Falmer, Leeds have bucked the trend gates wise, but with the best will in the world we are not a Leeds United.

 

[Titanic]

So in reality then where will the game be in 10 years time?

Personally i think a European Super League is not far off and the game will be healthier for loosing those teams. You may have to buy entry into the league thus creating its own prize money and putting off the smaller teams who would much rather fight it out in a fair and open domestic top league, actually, i quite like the sound of that......... Get me Sep Blatter on the phone i think i can improve the standard of slavery!

Interesting one this...

I enjoy watching the Premier League games on a Sunday/Monday, and there is always that wistful thought that, one day, BHA could be back up there!

But will SKY etc, and more to the point their paying customers, be interested in this 'Super League' that is unattainable for the local clubs they support??

If not, will it only be the direct supporters of those clubs who watch / pay for it? and if that's the case, is it financially viable - or does it just become a plaything for the mega-rich?