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Dean Windass reveals suicide attempts



Goldstone Rapper

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A Man normally has a sense of being from his occupation, his ability to provide and the Woman by his side. If one of those goes let alone 3 it can be a very bad downward spiral. I have had all 3 so I can speak from being in his position. Its a tough deck of cards to play with. All you can do it dust yourself off every morning and NEVER give up hoping things will turn around. Life can turn at the drop of a hat. It can be brutal. Everyone who has family , love , support, a loyal and loving partner and a means to provide NEVER take this for granted. You are lucky.

I disagree to the extent that people's circumstances do not give them their being. It may exert a degree of pressure to feel a certain way, but ultimately, people's sense of being relates to what their disposition to themselves and others is, rather than they have or even what they do. That's why a wealthy man, such as Dean Windass, can genuinely feel suicidal or why someone married may be less happy than someone single.
 






Feb 14, 2010
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Johnny Crumplin football genius ???

That's the one.. first sang as a piss take because he and Cooper was just terrible wingers. Gulls Eye did a big piss take of them. Then Crumps did OK at right back, with the first time sang in support being the Leeds game at home when he scored with a header from a corner.. remember it as if it was yesterday..
 


Lord Bamber

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Feb 23, 2009
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I understand there will be different views on this subject, I dont profess or wish to be versed on the understanding, does the arguing onthis subject make it more difficult for people to speak out?

Dont suffer in silence people.
 


oldalbiongirl

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That's the one.. first sang as a piss take because he and Cooper was just terrible wingers. Gulls Eye did a big piss take of them. Then Crumps did OK at right back, with the first time sang in support being the Leeds game at home when he scored with a header from a corner.. remember it as if it was yesterday..

Loved Crumplin. Especially his performance against John Barnes when he really was a genius!
 




Feb 14, 2010
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Loved Crumplin. Especially his performance against John Barnes when he really was a genius!

Yep, he gave it his all. That game was his best moment, tho I wasnt there to see it. I even liked him when he gave us the v sign for taking the piss out of him.. Watford away I think. It was fair enough, we deserved it. Those were the days, when you could take the piss out of players without some schoolboy worrying that you are not "supporting the team" as if football is life and death. Football used to be about taking the piss and having a laugh at anything and everything, but its taken far too seriously by younger fans these day.
 


Goldstone Rapper

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I understand there will be different views on this subject, I dont profess or wish to be versed on the understanding, does the arguing onthis subject make it more difficult for people to speak out?

Dont suffer in silence people.

When people are depressed, their capacities to seek help is often much reduced anyway due to a process that happens in the human brain in response to stress. Personally, I think most debates that tease out subjects such as stress, sadness, depression and suicide in a non-malicious way are usually healthy.
 


Lord Bamber

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Feb 23, 2009
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When people are depressed, their capacities to seek help is often much reduced anyway due to a process that happens in the human brain in response to stress. Personally, I think most debates that tease out subjects such as stress, sadness, depression and suicide in a non-malicious way are usually healthy.

I truly hope so.
 




oldalbiongirl

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Yep, he gave it his all. That game was his best moment, tho I wasnt there to see it. I even liked him when he gave us the v sign for taking the piss out of him.. Watford away I think. It was fair enough, we deserved it. Those were the days, when you could take the piss out of players without some schoolboy worrying that you are not "supporting the team" as if football is life and death. Football used to be about taking the piss and having a laugh at anything and everything, but its taken far too seriously by younger fans these day.

Can you imagine one of our players doing that to the fans now.:lol:
 


Feb 14, 2010
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Can you imagine one of our players doing that to the fans now.:lol:

I know its all so pathetic. Players spend their life worrying about punters taking the piss out of them and punters worry about players giving it back. Personally I'd like players to get more grief, preferably funny grief, and then I'd like players to react. its all part of the pantomime for me. What I really cant stand is this "superfan" rubbish. As if we want to be Northern Monkeys like Newcastle all wearing their bar code shirts. We used to be funny, but its less so these days.
 








Diego Napier

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Mar 27, 2010
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Straight from the Geoff Boycott school of the understanding of depression.

(I can't keep my eyes away from that damn avatar)

I know, I know. I'm sorry (on both counts!)
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Bit one way this, what if the man has another man by his side, is that not OK ?

Or the same for a woman ?

You know exactly what I mean, stop trying to be stupid.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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I disagree to the extent that people's circumstances do not give them their being. It may exert a degree of pressure to feel a certain way, but ultimately, people's sense of being relates to what their disposition to themselves and others is, rather than they have or even what they do. That's why a wealthy man, such as Dean Windass, can genuinely feel suicidal or why someone married may be less happy than someone single.

He isn't wealthy, he is broke. Did you read it ?
 


Goldstone Rapper

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He isn't wealthy, he is broke. Did you read it ?

I get what you are saying. Even so, the article says most of the money he has earned is gone. It does not say he's broke. Compared to most of the population, there is a good chance he may still be considered wealthy.
 




Durlston

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Jul 15, 2009
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Not entirely related to Dean Windass's problems but I read an interesting article in the Racing Post yesterday by Steve Palmer about depression in sport - a programme that was on BBC1 last week.

Some of the biggest names have battled the illness - Andrew Flintoff, Frank Bruno, Marcus Trescothick, Ronnie O'Sullivan, James Wade, Vinnie Jones, Stan Collymore and Ricky Hatton amongst many others.

The one thing that people often don't understand that have never had depression is "What's he/she got to be down about?" and "They've got the money, the fame, the cars, the homes, the beautiful WAG etc" and yet it all adds up to nothing if you're crippled by depression. It has no logic. It can strike anyone at anytime at any place.

I hope Dean Windass gets the right treatment and feels better very soon. It's good to get it out into the open and talk about depression and not just sweep it under the carpet.
 




oldalbiongirl

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Jun 25, 2011
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Not entirely related to Dean Windass's problems but I read an interesting article in the Racing Post yesterday by Steve Palmer about depression in sport - a programme that was on BBC1 last week.

Some of the biggest names have battled the illness - Andrew Flintoff, Frank Bruno, Marcus Trescothick, Ronnie O'Sullivan, James Wade, Vinnie Jones, Stan Collymore and Ricky Hatton amongst many others.

The one thing that people often don't understand that have never had depression is "What's he/she got to be down about?" and "They've got the money, the fame, the cars, the homes, the beautiful WAG etc" and yet it all adds up to nothing if you're crippled by depression. It has no logic. It can strike anyone at anytime at any place.

I hope Dean Windass gets the right treatment and feels better very soon. It's good to get it out into the open and talk about depression and not just sweep it under the carpet.

So im a bit of the oppposite to Dean Windass, I dont have the fame, the cars, the money, the homes or the wonderful HAB but i'm not depressed. Maybe I should be. No i've got this seasons Albion and the Amex. :D
Hope Dean Windass gets all the help he needs.
 


rudeboy

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Sep 17, 2008
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its a crushing illness but if you binge drink or drink to excess defo try giving it all up it makes it a lot of difference
 


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