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Dean Saunders - SACKED!



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Should never have sacked Mick McCarthy. He would have got them up again from the championship. Now look at them :lolol:

Gutted...
 




Gwylan

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Much as I agree with the sentiment (and believe in loyalty to the manager) it's difficult to ignore that it's not always correct. Look at Chelsea for example, they've burnt through managers but, at the same time, have won everything going.

I don't like it but it's doesn't seem to have hindered them all that much.

On the other hand, you could say that, given the money they've spent,why haven't they won more?
It's easy enough to win things when you can spend half a billion pounds on a squad
 


Simster

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Much as I agree with the sentiment (and believe in loyalty to the manager) it's difficult to ignore that it's not always correct. Look at Chelsea for example, they've burnt through managers but, at the same time, have won everything going.

I don't like it but it's doesn't seem to have hindered them all that much.
It's different when you talk about the very wealthiest clubs in the world. Money isn't an issue at Chelsea, and it doesn't matter who is in charge of the team, they can sign pretty much anyone they want as there are literally only about 6 clubs who can compete with them world-wide.
 




Westdene Seagull

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Much as I agree with the sentiment (and believe in loyalty to the manager) it's difficult to ignore that it's not always correct. Look at Chelsea for example, they've burnt through managers but, at the same time, have won everything going.

I don't like it but it's doesn't seem to have hindered them all that much.

I think Chelsea ( and maybe Man City ) are very much the exception as they have unlimited pots of money to buy players. I'm sure even you or I could manage them given you could pick virtually any player you wanted !
 






Not Andy Naylor

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Indeed - it always amazes me how quickly you see fans shout for the manager to be sacked ( and there are a few like that on here ) yet the most successful clubs are the ones that don't keep sacking their managers.

The trouble is that you have to find the right manager first- persevering with the wrong one won't get you anywhere. In hindsight they probably know they shouldn't have sacked Mick McCarthy.
 


leigull

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Agree with the sticking by your manager, but it's not a good idea to stick by, or even appoint in the first place, someone as hopeless as Saunders. Right decision and better to get it done now and a new guy lined up as early as possible
 




Austrian Gull

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20 Points from 20 games is reason enough for him to get the bullet - with hindsight, they probably should have stuck with Solbakken.

Wolves are a big club but anyone coming in has a very tough job. Players like Johnson, O'Hara and Doyle are on wages that could cripple the future of the club. Until they are got rid off, I can't see them finding it that easy to rebuild.
 


Westdene Seagull

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The trouble is that you have to find the right manager first- persevering with the wrong one won't get you anywhere. In hindsight they probably know they shouldn't have sacked Mick McCarthy.

Agree 100%. Problem is the board listened to the doommongers within the fan base. If they'd stuck by MM I think they'd still be in the top flight.

That's why, going back a few weeks, I really couldn't believe the idiots suggesting Gus should go.
 


vegster

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not a huge surprise, very poor record since taking over. Mick McCarthy must be enjoying his Weetabix this morning seeing how his club have spiraled down the plughole after he left.

Expect a few more and maybe some big names moving around in the next 3 months. Fergie might well spring a surprise by retiring and I think Mancini's time is up too. Moyes could slide in to Old Trafford and that would be a chance for an aspiring manager to move Everton on.
 




Simster

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That's why, going back a few weeks, I really couldn't believe the idiots suggesting Gus should go.
Quite. It was quite obvious that Gus's only real flaw was not being able to pick a quality striker. He now seems to have solved that. Actually, the only other thing that ever grates is the way he handles criticism - "ees no' problem, I can always go home or sit on the beach if you don' like ee".

But he's only human. Overall, history is likely to prove him to be one of the best, if not *the* best manager we've ever had at the club.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Indeed - it always amazes me how quickly you see fans shout for the manager to be sacked ( and there are a few like that on here ) yet the most successful clubs are the ones that don't keep sacking their managers.

Or are the successful clubs the ones that don't need to sack their manager? I've always been a bit puzzled by the claim that not sacking the manager has made clubs successful.
 






Giraffe

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That is a complete joke in my book. in took over a team in freefall and has barely a few months to change things.

Should have been given the chance to commence the rebuilding of the team.

Also he has experience of managing at league one level and showed he was good at it. Therefore should have stuck with him.

Total joke club.
 


Giraffe

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20 Points from 20 games is reason enough for him to get the bullet - with hindsight, they probably should have stuck with Solbakken.

Wolves are a big club but anyone coming in has a very tough job. Players like Johnson, O'Hara and Doyle are on wages that could cripple the future of the club. Until they are got rid off, I can't see them finding it that easy to rebuild.

The whole club and team needs rebuilding. It wasn't tweaking they needed. You can't expect Saunders to have done that in a few months. It's just not possible. Every manager needs at least a season before they can be judged.
 


Comedy Steve

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Quite. It was quite obvious that Gus's only real flaw was not being able to pick a quality striker. He now seems to have solved that. Actually, the only other thing that ever grates is the way he handles criticism - "ees no' problem, I can always go home or sit on the beach if you don' like ee".

Am I in a minority for actually liking that about Gus? I'm so tired of the usual sanitized gubbins being trotted out by managers who receive criticism. As far as I see it, if you want a manager with passion (and Gus has it in abundance) then you get an emotional response to the negatives as well. Obviously you can take it too far (e.g. Di Canio) but I want him to openly react to the highs and lows of the fans' response, not pretend not to notice it. I never want a jelly-mold suited FA clone managing Brighton.
 


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Simster

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Am I in a minority for actually liking that about Gus? I'm so tired of the usual sanitized gubbins being trotted out by managers who receive criticism. As far as I see it, if you want a manager with passion (and Gus has it in abundance) then you get an emotional response to the negatives as well. Obviously you can take it too far (e.g. Di Canio) but I want him to openly react to the highs and lows of the fans' response, not pretend not to notice it. I never want a jelly-mold suited FA clone managing Brighton.
I don't mind the attitude of looking at the bigger picture, but it's a fine line between making that point and giving the impression that you're not all that bothered.
 


Westdene Seagull

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Or are the successful clubs the ones that don't need to sack their manager? I've always been a bit puzzled by the claim that not sacking the manager has made clubs successful.

It's a fair question. Personally I'm in the camp that you should let a manager have a decent amount of time to implement their plans - it can't be done in a single season or indeed a few months. Crewe are a perfect example of sticking by Dario Gradi. They went up, they went down but he constantly kept the kept the club ticking over and made them money on youth players. Not the most successful club in the world but certainly more stable that the Wolves and Blackburn's are at the moment.
 


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