[Albion] Davy Propper

[Rogero]

There are footballers out there who do not like football including Ben White.

https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...-really-like-football-white-tevez-ronaldinho/

 

[Springal]

. And the coronavirus crisis and the lack of visits from relatives and friends haven’t done me any good, either.’
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I think people are looking for something that isn't there. My comments are simply based on this. It has obviously had some impact on his mental health wellbeing ?

He just doesn’t enjoy the world of football anymore. Straightforward and honest so there’s no reason to read anymore into it.

Not really any reason or need to speculate on that - he's been pretty clear why he's quitting. I quit my job last year mainly because I'd had enough of it

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

It feels like a huge thing to step away from football when he's only 30 and still playing at the top level but at the end of the day it is only a game so good on him for making the decision if it's what's best for him.

I hope it's nothing serious and he can move on and enjoy the rest of his life. He's only 30 so he's got a lot of life ahead of him to explore new things.

good luck to him.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Indeed. That little lad who was at Spuds had similar struggles (despite being an England regular for a while). Name escapes me. Didn't stop him getting pelters for 'attitude' and 'what's he got to be miserable for, on that money?' comments, of course

Paul somebody, Gascoigne was it?

Reading between the lines I've a strong suspicion that all isn't well in the Davy Propper camp. I hope that stepping away from the game will succeed in sorting out his problems.

Covid and it's resultant effects is beginning to play a massive part in the state of the nations mental well being. He mentioned the difficulties he faces when not able to be with his family when at the Albion at the start of the pandemic.

 

[schmunk]

Why billionaires still go to work is a mystery to me.

Me too, but I would guess that's a significant part of why we're not billionaires.

 

[Badger Boy]

So the question really is whether it was "playing" under Hughton, not playing under Potter or some combination of the two.

 

[Baldseagull]

Sad to see he has been unhappy, hope he finds it now.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

So the question really is whether it was "playing" under Hughton, not playing under Potter or some combination of the two.

I guess a combination of not being in the matchday squad, living in a foreign country, not being able to visit his family and friends back in the Netherlands all played their part. It certainly would if it was me.

I don't blame him for a moment, the guy has reached the age of 30, achieved a lot of success, and presumably made a lot of money from the game. He has nothing left to prove to anyone.

 

[Swansman]

Hopefully this is no worse than lack of motivation. Reading some Dutch interviews with Pröpper in the past he strikes me as a down-to-earth guy not entirely comfortable with the spotlight. I remember reading that fishing is his big passion in life, which might say a thing or two about his personality as it is pretty much as far as you can come from the self-exposure culture in football (and in general).

Me too, but I would guess that's a significant part of why we're not billionaires.

Dunno about that. The vast majority of billionaires are born billionaires and probably works no harder than your average NHS worker.

 

[sagaman]

Very best wishes to a great guy who graced our first time in the Premier League.

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[Paulie Gualtieri]

Seems had his contract terminated and has retired at 30.

No injury…. Just fell out of love with the game.

https://www.psv.nl/english-psv/news/article/davy-propper-retires-from-football.htm

Blimey not our first Dutch retiree either

 

[Swansman]

So the question really is whether it was "playing" under Hughton, not playing under Potter or some combination of the two.

Or both of those things could be of limited importance.

To us, Davy Pröpper is a former Brighton player, but in the real world he is also a father, husband, brother, fisherman, multi-layered personality, affected by things that goes on in his life and the world around. If the problem was not playing entertaining football / not playing much it would have been quite easily resolved but when he speaks of "uncomfortable with football culture" I think it probably has more to do with his personality not fitting in with how you're expected to be in football: pressure on your shoulders to perform every day, riding around in big cars flashing your nice clothes on Instagram, getting hundreds of nasty comments from fans and random people when you have a shitty day... all amplified over in England where the generally sick football culture is even sicker.

In our minds where footballers are only footballers, a lot might seem to be down to Chris Hughton or Graham Potter or Roger Schmidt (PSV manager) but reality is far more complex than that.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Dunno about that. The vast majority of billionaires are born billionaires and probably works no harder than your average NHS worker.

Are you insinuating that the average NHS employee doesn't work their socks off, particularly during these crazy times? they deserve all the plaudits that they can get, and more.

But you are right, you don't neceaasrily have to work that hard to become, or be, a billionaire. In many cases it is inherited wealth anyway.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Indeed. That little lad who was at Spuds had similar struggles (despite being an England regular for a while). Name escapes me. Didn't stop him getting pelters for 'attitude' and 'what's he got to be miserable for, on that money?' comments, of course

Rose?

 

[Hamilton]

A brave and honest decision. I really enjoyed having him at the club and the style of this decision shows he was a good egg I think. Good luck to him.

A sunday league side in Arnhem may well hit gold as I'm sure he'll still fancy a kick about.

 

[Swansman]

Are you insinuating that the average NHS employee doesn't work their socks off, particularly during these crazy times? They deserve all the plaudits that they can get, and more.

No. The opposite really. What I'm saying is that working hard wont necessarily make you a billionaire and that billionaires are not necessarily working hard.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

No. The opposite really. What I'm saying is that working hard wont necessarily make you a billionaire and that billionaires are not necessarily working hard.

Yep, l edited my post to say much the same thing.

 

[Jesus Gul]

Jeez...and just when I thought I'd finally got Wham's Last Christmas out of my mind...

'this year to save me from tears I'll give it to Davy Propper'

Best wishes Davy

 

[Badger Boy]

Or both of those things could be of limited importance.

To us, Davy Pröpper is a former Brighton player, but in the real world he is also a father, husband, brother, fisherman, multi-layered personality, affected by things that goes on in his life and the world around. If the problem was not playing entertaining football / not playing much it would have been quite easily resolved but when he speaks of "uncomfortable with football culture" I think it probably has more to do with his personality not fitting in with how you're expected to be in football: pressure on your shoulders to perform every day, riding around in big cars flashing your nice clothes on Instagram, getting hundreds of nasty comments from fans and random people when you have a shitty day... all amplified over in England where the generally sick football culture is even sicker.

In our minds where footballers are only footballers, a lot might seem to be down to Chris Hughton or Graham Potter or Roger Schmidt (PSV manager) but reality is far more complex than that.

Of course you're totally right - it's about everything in context. I would imagine that the amount of money he has earned has had an impact on his desire to train every day, etc. I would be the exact same - if I had earned the money which meant I didn't need to work so hard, there's no doubt in my mind that I wouldn't want to. If I'd spent 4 years away from my home country, including 18 months of a global pandemic which reduced ability to see his family and friends, I would probably also be questioning my life and my priorities. I think everyone in the world has given a second thought to how they live their lives due to pandemic prompted self-reflection. I'm certain players are the exact same here - they've questioned what they really want from the game and I doubt Davy is alone in not wanting to continue.

 

[MJsGhost]

Indeed. That little lad who was at Spuds had similar struggles (despite being an England regular for a while). Name escapes me. Didn't stop him getting pelters for 'attitude' and 'what's he got to be miserable for, on that money?' comments, of course

Danny Rose?

Another (now ex-) Spurs player (Asso-Ekotto) also said he doesn't like football maybe it's something to do with the club, which would be entirely understandable.

Back to the matter in hand... this news just makes me think more highly of Davy. I'm another that can't imagine working (for money) longer than I need to. It's a big decision for someone in his situation to make - with the seemingly easy option of phoning in performances for a couple of years to pick up his (I'm assuming relatively large) pay packet. The number of hangers-on (agents) trying to change his mind would make it harder. I can imagine other players would challenge him on it as to accept his view would be to question their own.

Fair play to the man for doing what he needs to do. I'll always remember him fondly for everything he gave the Albion and what he helped the club achieve (and for the luscious hair of course). An intelligent and cultured man on the pitch and off it too, it would seem.