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[Albion] Davy Propper



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The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
If only Houghton and Porter had played Davy in his most effective position behind the strikers. That’s where he ALWAYS played for the Netherlands.

Can’t help but feel this might the real reason why he fell out of love with the game.

Whilst this is often touted, it is categorically not actually true.
 




Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
You're putting words in Pwopper's mouth based on that big chip of yours hun.

Nope. I pretty much repeated his reasons for quitting (football world, football culture, the years abroad, losing interest) and then speculated on what these things could mean more specifically.

Looks like you and jonny and a few others found the only plausible reason however - that he hated that Hughton and Potter didnt play him in the position where he played twice for Oranje and thus started to hate football.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Whilst this is often touted, it is categorically not actually true.

Indeed. It has been repeated over and over again. He played twice as AMC for the Netherlands and occasionally in that position when he played for Vitesse and PSV. In reality spent most of his career as a two-way central midfielder.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Very fair comment….

Difficult to forget the first time Ryan sprinted the length of the field to celebrate a goal……

Also, even big Jurg had his Millwall moment…..

The Gross turn (who scored our first PL goal?), in fact who scored our first top flight goal? 😉

Stephens arguably our most consistent performer……

Any one in isolation probably wouldn't even have registered.
But all 4 getting 2 footed, (granted by probably only a dozen of posters) over a couple of days seems a bit of a rum do.



Esp.as I can't help thinking the teams current status is giving credence to these opinions.
 


herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,649
Still in Brighton
Okay, that's enough defensive nationalism for one day - everyone can tell you're a patriot. The Swedish bloke was talking about English football culture being sick, and I think that he clarified that he was mostly referring to the PL. He did not say that English culture as a whole is sick, so a bit of conflation there from you.

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herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,649
Still in Brighton
Nope. I pretty much repeated his reasons for quitting (football world, football culture, the years abroad, losing interest) and then speculated on what these things could mean more specifically.

Looks like you and jonny and a few others found the only plausible reason however - that he hated that Hughton and Potter didnt play him in the position where he played twice for Oranje and thus started to hate football.

edit - deleted, cba.
 
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Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Nearly forgot this beauty

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Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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A man with his own trademark moves

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OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
13,277
Perth Australia
Just got fed up with it all it sounds like, wants to try something else.
We have all felt like this at times, though most of us cannot afford to just pack it in.
 










Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,403
Location Location
Imagine if Chicago Bulls had that attitude when Michael Jordan wanted to make his comeback.
Not sure Dave is entirely comparable to one of the biggest worldwide legends that particular sport has ever seen making a comeback.

In January he said he'd lost his love for the game, no longer liked the discipline involved, the hectic schedule, that he felt relief on calling time on his career, and wanted to discover other interests to take up. Looks like 10 months on he couldn't find anything lucrative enough to sustain him, so is turning back to what he knows.

I'd be pretty careful on awarding a contract to someone the wrong side of 30 who'd already jacked it in once. But I do hope it works out for him somewhere.
 




Jul 20, 2003
20,674
Injuries, the arrival of an upgrade in Lallana (they didn't spend 1 minute both playing), lockdown and perhaps a bit of homesickness brought his time with us to a necessary end.

100+ premier league performances. I know a lot of people didn't rate him but most of the time I thought he did a lovely job. 7/10

If, in his early 30s he wants to train with his home town club (that he spent 10 years with) then good luck to him. Junior players could surely gain something from training with him and if he gets his mojo back Vitesse get a player who could certainly do a job at a mid table Eredivisie team.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Not sure Dave is entirely comparable to one of the biggest worldwide legends that particular sport has ever seen making a comeback.

In January he said he'd lost his love for the game, no longer liked the discipline involved, the hectic schedule, that he felt relief on calling time on his career, and wanted to discover other interests to take up. Looks like 10 months on he couldn't find anything lucrative enough to sustain him, so is turning back to what he knows.

I'd be pretty careful on awarding a contract to someone the wrong side of 30 who'd already jacked it in once. But I do hope it works out for him somewhere.
More likely his old team mate Philip Cocu, now the manager of Vitesse, telling Davy "hey, the your motherclub - where you spent 11 years - from your hometown is dangerously close to the relegation zone, which could possibly result in bankuptcy... and while I know that playing in front of THPP and Solid at the back at the Amex killed all your love for football, maybe you could come and train with us for a bit and see if you like it, because we could do with some quality".
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,722
Shoreham Beaaaach
Always liked Davy. A solid if unspectacular midfielder. One of those players, I think, who does their job well enough that you don't really notice them doing it.
Absolutely this.

Lovely hair too.

How many of us have made decisions that we regret? Taking 10 months out could have shown him what he had (in football) and what he's missed since his retirement and that he's got a very limited time to get back onto the pitch, if that's what he wants.

Good luck to the fella. Always came over as a nice bloke to me. And the hair (did I already say that???)
 




Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
3,658
I can imagine it takes a while to get over playing for Hughton and his old school football and then I don't imagine being inspired by Potter. That combination, plus Covid and being a Dutchman, I understand why he wanted out. Hopefully he's feeling better about himself and his football again. If he's got the love back then he'd be an asset.

Alternatively, if he hasn't he could be the equivalent of Robbie Savage's loan spell here. A former player trying to capture something they've lost.
 


Billy in Bristol

Well-known member
Mar 25, 2004
1,477
Bristol
If we only had an expert in Football finance somewhere on this platform, they may be able to answer my query...I am sure when Davy left we received a transfer fee, would the buying club had any recourse (insurance, player himself) when the player promptly retired? Also, any complications if he now unretires?
 


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