David Milliband to PM on Monday 10th May 2010

[BLOCK F]

Brown is a dead man walking....Labour may well come third in the popular vote and if the Tories do not win an outright majority,Clegg will do a deal with Cameron.
It is almost certain that the Tories will poll more individual votes than Labour and if Clegg is true to his Proportional Representation stance,he will go for a deal with the Conservatives in the event of no overall majority.
The country would not take kindly to Brown being propped up,and indeed Clegg has said he will not do that.....so what is the alternative for Labour.....another unelected P.M.?I think that would be unacceptable to the electorate.
And by the way,if Vince becomes Chancellor,we will soon find out he is not the genius he and some supporters believe he is!!

 

[Stoo82]

Might not be someone from Labour.

BBC News - Election 2010: Clegg warns Labour on third place

 

[SUIYHP]

I really dont like milliband, In fact I like him less than Brown

 

[beorhthelm]

I really don't know how you have come to this conclusion? The Lib Dems are the only party who are willing to adopt a position on many of the key issues. The other two parties have adopted policies which appeal to either the swing voters in key marginals or their main party funders.

The Lib Dems are the only ones advocating real change to the political system, are prepared to sort out the banking system, have a clear pro EU policy but will commit to a referendum and will move the tax burden from the poorest sections of society to the richest. Hardly middle of the road.

the LibDems have always been able to advocate strong positions because they dont really have to worry about the execution of the policies. take for instance £10k income tax allowace, i dont think theres anyone in the country who'd go against that, but in a recession with talk of spending cuts, how on earth are they going to afford it? they cant. they'll mention something about taxing the top earners, but that wont cover it as they'll just off shore and there isnt enough of them. Its very easy to make promises you dont have to keep. the other two parties have always been hostages to success, they have to deliver on the promises they make, so tend to not be so outlandish, tinkering around with things and not getting boxed into a corner where often there are massive internal fractures (EU/euro springs to mind for both Labour and Tory) on the direction to take.

anyway, the knives are out again this weekend for Brown, it cant be good going into an election when your leaders position is questioned 2 weeks before. stand by for a no show from alot of Labour and a capitulation of their support and seats.

 

[West Hoathly Seagull]

they'll mention something about taxing the top earners, but that wont cover it as they'll just off shore and there isnt enough of them.

This is one of my main points regarding tax. What is better? Tax the banker on his £2million at 40%, you get £800,000 for the Exchequer (okay, there's personal allowances, but add in NI and it is nearabouts that figure). Not that there are that many of them as you say. Tax him at 50 or 60%, as the socialists dream, and he goes abroad, what's 50 or 60% of sweet FA? Answer, sweet FA.

 

[Don Quixote]

Brown is a dead man walking....Labour may well come third in the popular vote and if the Tories do not win an outright majority,Clegg will do a deal with Cameron.
It is almost certain that the Tories will poll more individual votes than Labour and if Clegg is true to his Proportional Representation stance,he will go for a deal with the Conservatives in the event of no overall majority.
The country would not take kindly to Brown being propped up,and indeed Clegg has said he will not do that.....so what is the alternative for Labour.....another unelected P.M.?I think that would be unacceptable to the electorate.
And by the way,if Vince becomes Chancellor,we will soon find out he is not the genius he and some supporters believe he is!!

Clegg will not do a deal with Cameron, it will anger his party too much. It will be impossible. Remember some of them are Social Democrats, why would they want to join with a party that is nowhere near their political ideology? It will not happen.

 

[Harty]

Clegg will not do a deal with Cameron, it will anger his party too much. It will be impossible. Remember some of them are Social Democrats, why would they want to join with a party that is nowhere near their political ideology? It will not happen.

I think you are right Don, up and down the country in all different local councils the tories and the lib dems are at each others throats, Worthing is a case in point, I cannot suddenly see all that 'water ' going under the bridge without any kind of serious fall out.

Clegg was very cagey with Andrew Marr this morning, when asked would he work with the party with the most votes or seats he wouldn't give a direct answer.

It might be that factions within the labour party have already done the deal with Clegg and co to ditch Gordon.

 

[Half Time Pies]

This is one of my main points regarding tax. What is better? Tax the banker on his £2million at 40%, you get £800,000 for the Exchequer (okay, there's personal allowances, but add in NI and it is nearabouts that figure). Not that there are that many of them as you say. Tax him at 50 or 60%, as the socialists dream, and he goes abroad, what's 50 or 60% of sweet FA? Answer, sweet FA.

Is this one of the bankers who has recently cost the UK taxpayer £850 billion??

 

[Half Time Pies]

the LibDems have always been able to advocate strong positions because they dont really have to worry about the execution of the policies. take for instance £10k income tax allowace, i dont think theres anyone in the country who'd go against that, but in a recession with talk of spending cuts, how on earth are they going to afford it? they cant. they'll mention something about taxing the top earners, but that wont cover it as they'll just off shore and there isnt enough of them. Its very easy to make promises you dont have to keep.

I assume you haven't read the Lib Dem manifesto then? The figures on how it is possible to afford the 10K income tax allowance are very clearly laid out:
Liberal Democrat Manifesto 2010

 

[beorhthelm]

I assume you haven't read the Lib Dem manifesto then?

nope and fair point. though im now dismayed to find out they intend to fund it partially by robbing the pension funds of £5billion a year. excellent, didnt learn much from Brown then. and £3.5 from closing "loop holes" has always seemed fanciful to me (had read that one).

 

[Harty]

Odds still 10/1 after Bigotgate?

 

[BLOCK F]

Clegg will not do a deal with Cameron, it will anger his party too much. It will be impossible. Remember some of them are Social Democrats, why would they want to join with a party that is nowhere near their political ideology? It will not happen.

I do not agree.Of course he would do a deal with the Conservatives,who will probably end up with the most votes.The Libdems have left and right wings after all.
If Clegg propped up a party that possibly might gain the lowest popular vote and ignored the party that gained the highest popular vote,what would that say about his Proportional Representation stance or integrity.
By the way,does the country want another unelected P.M( Millipede or whoever) foisted upon them?Jesus,can anyone seriously see Millipede as a Prime Minister of this country?

 

[BLOCK F]

Odds still 10/1 after Bigotgate?

Don't waste your money Harty!!

 

[Harty]

not so far fetched..........

 

[Lord Bracknell]

not so far fetched..........

The target date looks unlikely.

But what's the hurry?