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Would any of the whingers complained if Grabbon had signed...but greedy agents make it difficult,if we are keeping in our wage structure then that's fine by me...
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David Burke OUT!!!
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TLO, do you mind if I use this as a response to almost every thread currently on NSC?
I wonder if it's the cheese burger vs the emperor burger...... It's all I could afford!!
It's an interesting debate but not because of David Burke the man. Rather it's the system that needs challenging.
I know this is NSC and contradiction is what we do best but some of the ITK posts have been frankly contradictory today. I have seen that Oscar was not happy with the transfer policy but also that he wanted LESS involvement and not more. Both cannot be true. Unless we know the real reasons for Oscar leaving this is all going to be conjecture. Perhaps, despite the phlegmatic, considered persona he didn't want the responsibility of signing players but he did want his type of players. If this is true we are well rid of him to be honest.
I'm not sure the 'director of football' role works in England at the minute. We are still brought up on the all-controlling boss. And when the most famous exponent of this is Sir Alex Ferguson it's pretty hard to challenge.
I work, day to day, in "change". People are pretty resistant to it. Sometimes it is the irrational, Luddite fear of the new. Sometimes, however they can smell the cheerleaders' bullshit and inadequacy. That I cannot tell which David Burke's role represents should be concerning any free thinking Brighton fan.
I know this is NSC and contradiction is what we do best but some of the ITK posts have been frankly contradictory today. I have seen that Oscar was not happy with the transfer policy but also that he wanted LESS involvement and not more. Both cannot be true. Unless we know the real reasons for Oscar leaving this is all going to be conjecture. Perhaps, despite the phlegmatic, considered persona he didn't want the responsibility of signing players but he did want his type of players. If this is true we are well rid of him to be honest.
I'm not sure the 'director of football' role works in England at the minute. We are still brought up on the all-controlling boss. And when the most famous exponent of this is Sir Alex Ferguson it's pretty hard to challenge.
I work, day to day, in "change". People are pretty resistant to it. Sometimes it is the irrational, Luddite fear of the new. Sometimes, however they can smell the cheerleaders' bullshit and inadequacy. That I cannot tell which David Burke's role represents should be concerning any free thinking Brighton fan.
The Large One
Who's Next?
Nor Jones, nor Martinez, nor the German doctor bloke...
The Large One
Who's Next?
TLO, do you mind if I use this as a response to almost every thread currently on NSC?
For all the good it will do, help yourself...
The Large One
Who's Next?
He spoke on a lot of subjects. Any particular aspect? It's been a while since I've listened to it.
It was our most listened-to show of the season.
Silent Bob
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Not sure it's some kind of rare insight to identify one of the league's leading scorers as a potential target.
Diego Napier
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Are you as dim in real life?
The Large One
Who's Next?
I don't suppose you'd care to flesh out this contention, citing relevant considerations, correct facts and true examples...
RexCathedra
Aurea Mediocritas
The Cossacks work for the Tsar.
Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
More about the system and perhaps it's not the Nazi style, you vill be signing him type system people believe we have in place.
People seem to be suggesting thay OG was duped when signing.
Thought Burke was seen as at the same level as Barber, and as involved with Oscar...? I'm not saying it means anything, just an observation. 2 managers have now left in a short space of time, both under slightly cloudy circumstances, with both commenting on the budget/transfer situation unfavourably.
We wouldn't be doing our fit and proper persons test properly if we didn't at least discuss why this is.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Seemingly there are intrinsic problems with our recruiting process not beimg streamlined enough. Perhaps there needs to be an urgent review of the whole department.
You won't get any facts about Burkes involvement in some of the mediocrity we signed so we might as well move on. As long as Garcia doesn't get all the blame for them.
I agree it needs to be reviewed, and now before the new manager comes in or as part of the process of the new manager so he can have his say.
Billy the Fish
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Great post. People are having a go at Burke the man but from what I've seen he's doing a decent enough job when you consider what Tony Bloom has emplyed him for.
It might just be that the way it's structured causes him to tread on the manager's toes too much. I seem to remember seeing a company structure that put Burke, Barber and Oscar on the same level and answerable only to Tony Bloom. Perhaps that is causing problems and the DOF role should be a level below and answerable just to Barber.
At the end of the day we still need someone to orchestrate all the coaches, scouts, negotiate contracts etc
The only bone of contention is when we get to choosing transfer targets, perhaps that just needs to be tweaked rather than get rid of the role entirely.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The recruitment problem seems to be at the heart of Oscar leaving.