[Misc] Davey Cameron's rednbluenwhite army

[JC Footy Genius]

They will continue with the rhetoric I'm sure. Which is diametrically opposed to their current policies.
If their policies start matching the rhetoric, then labour will have a real struggle.

Some policies may appear at odds with the message, some will support it, people will pick and choose examples depending on their bias. Rhetoric may well be enough, as it was when laying the blame for the economic crisis at Labours door.

 

[vegster]

Rich people get richer, poor people work harder....to stay poor.

 

[Bozza]

Rich people get richer, poor people work harder....to stay poor.

You missed the bit about poor social mobility within the UK and the biggest determinant in how much you earn being how much your father earns/earned then?

 

[beorhthelm]

Editor of New Statesman:

Life-long Labourites like what they heard:

Former Labour Party and GMB official:

but will the policies follow, or is it all bluff for the media? it will be interesting if Cameron does return to his original leadership pitch, reform of the Tories and one-nationism. yet only this week i saw something about whether he is the heir to Thatcher, and if one thing Cameron is consistent on its having a lack of consistent, solid policy.

(btw, tweet tag seems to screw with quotes)

 

[mikeyjh]

Rich people get richer, poor people work harder....to stay poor.

Correct, and ever it will be with the Tories - Because, fundamentally, that's what they actually want to happen.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

You missed the bit about poor social mobility within the UK and the biggest determinant in how much you earn being how much your father earns/earned then?

And what have the Eton toffs ever tried to do about it? Remind me about their Inheritance Tax policy.

 

[Bodian]

They will continue with the rhetoric I'm sure. Which is diametrically opposed to their current policies.
If their policies start matching the rhetoric, then labour will have a real struggle.

But if their policies match their rhetoric, then labour won't have a struggle - as they won't be needed, much of their job will be done for them. Trouble is with Cameron is that he says what he thinks will appeal to people at the time - but then just carries out the policies he really wants to anyway, which are often vastly different things. And for that, you have to admire him and Osbourne as politicians - whatever you think of their politics.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

But if their policies match their rhetoric, then labour won't have a struggle - as they won't be needed, much of their job will be done for them. Trouble is with Cameron is that he says what he thinks will appeal to people at the time - but then just carries out the policies he really wants to anyway, which are often vastly different things. And for that, you have to admire him and Osbourne as politicians - whatever you think of their politics.

I certainly don't admire Osbourne and Cameron as politicians.
I am regularly disappointed that the media and electorate fail to hold them to task for the gap between what they say and what they do.

 

[Albumen]

"We can't let that man [Corbyn] inflict his security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology on the country we love" #standingovation

Haha DAILY MAIL headline. Scared of having an opposition by chance?

 

[heathgate]

If the Tories really have moved Leftwards, that will really upset their foaming-at-the-mouth, swivel-eyed, hate-filled, Daily Mail-reading grass-roots supporters then; for these people, their Party can never be Right-wing enough!

Spoken by a truly blinkered and obviously oblivious person. The right, the far right, are a minority even in the ranks of Conservative heartlands... centre right is where the majority sit.

 

[mikeyjh]

Haha DAILY MAIL headline. Scared of having an opposition by chance?

Tells you everything you need to know about Cameron as an intellectual, can't even reason with an argument that suggests killing bin Laden may be counter productive. That punishment is not always the only answer. He is such a pr*ck, I can't put it better than that.

 

[Titanic]

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[CHAPPERS]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-being-a-terrorist-sympathiser-a6684511.html

What a disgusting, stupid thing for the Prime Minister to say.

 

[Buzzer]

can't even reason with an argument that suggests killing bin Laden may be counter productive. That punishment is not always the only answer..

That's not quite what Corbyn said though, was it? He didn't say the death of OBL was counter-productive and leave it at that. He said the WTC deaths were a tragedy and that OBL's death was a tragedy. There's a moral equivalence apparently. Cameron was very specific about calling Corbyn out for this moral equivalence. And by all means disagree but it's a pretty retarded style of debate to be agreeing that Cameron is resorting to 'Daily Mail' rantings and then go and call him a prick.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Has he mentioned the massive increase in homelessness since he came in to power yet?

Do any of the party leaders talk about their failures when addressing their party conference ?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Kid gloves are now officially OFF for The Nasty Party, same as we always knew they would be, as soon as they got elected with an overall majority. Now they're queueing up to out-nasty each other. some pretty disgusting things being bandied about in the name of naked political ambition by some pretty disgusting people. But who would have expected anything else?

 

[alfredmizen]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-being-a-terrorist-sympathiser-a6684511.html

What a disgusting, stupid thing for the Prime Minister to say.

Why ? it's absolutely spot on.

 

[Soulman]

Has he mentioned the massive increase in homelessness since he came in to power yet?

Well hopefully a cut in immigration and housing others will help our own homeless. Good job Bassingbourn Barracks has been opened up to homeless ex armed forces before those places are taken up with the influx.

 

[Seagull27]

Remarkably leftist speech from Cameron, there.

Labour have moved left, and the Tories have wasted no time in a land grab.

So the Tories have shifted towards the left as well?

Brilliant news, well done Jeremy!

 

[mikeyjh]

That's not quite what Corbyn said though, was it? He didn't say the death of OBL was counter-productive and leave it at that. He said the WTC deaths were a tragedy and that OBL's death was a tragedy. There's a moral equivalence apparently. Cameron was very specific about calling Corbyn out for this moral equivalence. And by all means disagree but it's a pretty retarded style of debate to be agreeing that Cameron is resorting to 'Daily Mail' rantings and then go and call him a prick.

If you put a full stop at the end of sentence 1 and 2, then yes you can create an equivalence, but it's not that simple is it? It's absolutely pathetic of Cameron to be so unsophisticated in his approach but I'm not surprised, that his approach to most things - Like fueling the fire of anti immigration rhetoric, like blaming those in receipt of benefit for all the ills of the country.

He is a prick, I'm not debating that bit.