[Music] Dave Edmunds and Nick Lowe.

[Dick Knights Mumm]

“There are some things you can’t cover up with lipstick and powder …… “ is just one of the great opening lyrics.

 

[MTSeagulls]

Queen of Hearts is one of my favourites

 

[T.G]

Seen Nick Lowe a couple of times and always did a great set…my favourites of his being (What’s so funny about ) peace, love and understanding and American Squirm.

 

[T.G]

“There are some things you can’t cover up with lipstick and powder …… “ is just one of the great opening lyrics.

Written by Elvis Costello great line

 

[Stato]

And just to round off with the actual subjects of the thread, Nick Lowe is from Surrey and Dave Edmunds is welsh. All round, a superb analysis

I don't think Uriah Heep were Brummies either. Weren't they were from London? Judas Priest were the Brummies.

Incidentally, as far as I'm concerned, 'Greatest Living Englishman' Nick Lowe will never not be cool. How could he not be? He was Johnny Cash's son in law!

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

Queen of Hearts is one of my favourites

A great tune from the movie ‘Salvador’ and yes as are the two songs mentioned in the opening post. However I have no desire to see them live unless it was in a venue I was already at and had no plans to move for the rest of the evening.

 

[zefarelly]

Pub rock is hugely under rated . . . . Timing and trend is everything in music.

TotP or local pub . . . Literally the flip of a coin

these days its tails both sides. and some national treasures would never make it.

 

[Comrade Sam]

Going to see Wreckless Eric in Walthamstow on Thursday, might be a talk - not sure. When he was sound man at the Freebutt I managed to get a couple of evenings of chat out of him. Not sure it was what he wanted.

 

[zefarelly]

After Ian Dury popped his clogs, the first gig the BLockheads did a year or so later was @ the Concorde, WE sung a track or two, as did Phil Jupitus, MArk Lamar and others. . .

 

[Stato]

Going to see Wreckless Eric in Walthamstow on Thursday, might be a talk - not sure. When he was sound man at the Freebutt I managed to get a couple of evenings of chat out of him. Not sure it was what he wanted.

Local boy is Mr Goulden, born in Newhaven, grew up in Peacehaven, went to Lewes Grammar School. His autobiography is a great read:

 

[GT49er]

Written by Elvis Costello great line

....and boy! Wasn't the cover version an improvement!

 

[Stato]

....and boy! Wasn't the cover version an improvement!

No. As with Robert Wyatt and 'Shipbuilding', although Elvis wrote the song, he gave it to a colleague. Dave Edmunds' version was recorded first, so wasn't a cover version.

 

[Binney on acid]

Have a feeling I saw Brinsley Schwarz at 'The Richmond'. Saw him & Bob Andrews on stage with Graham Parker on a few occasions. Wish I'd seen Dave Edmunds. Some of his singles were great.

 

[GT49er]

No. As with Robert Wyatt and 'Shipbuilding', although Elvis wrote the song, he gave it to a colleague. Dave Edmunds' version was recorded first, so wasn't a cover version.

The Elvis Costello version was still crap though.

 

[Stato]

The Elvis Costello version was still crap though.

Nope. For me, nothing Elvis has done has ever been crap. His version is less radio friendly than Edmunds'. It's more angry, in line with his persona at the time, but it's nicely soul inflected and has some classic Steve Naive crashing Abba influenced piano chord sequences on it. It's in the style of Northern Soul influenced stuff that he was doing at that time, like 'High Fidelity' and his covers of Sam & Dave's 'I Can't Stand Up For Falling Down' and Betty Everett's 'Getting Mighty Crowded'.



The Attractions were a machine at that time, motoring through every brilliant song that he came up with at full speed. Fantastic stuff. I do like Dave Edmunds version too, but I liked 'Queen of Hearts' even more.

 

[Stato]

Went to see Nick with Los Straightjackets at the Old Market a couple of years ago and he was still firing and he was still writing lovely songs:

 

[OzMike]

Roy Wood was ground breaking and I think the make up etc was to hide shyness possibly.
I saw him do a one man show in Folkstone decades ago, where he played about 40 instruments, was spellbinding.

 

[Flounce]

Just not cool, perhaps? That seemed to be the fate of quite a few Birmingham? Black Country bands: Roy Wood - good guitarist, just about OK singer, always looked a bit of a clown; Moody Blues - oved their music, but they so looked lied a bunch of nice young men, cravats, ties, smart shirts - not your average typical rock band; Jeff Lynne - held up by many as an excellent musician, but was he ever that exciting, dynamic? Dave and Nick - probably in the same boat (though Jesus of Cool was an amazing album); Uriah Heap, heavy, but frequently objects of derision from anybody not actually a fan.
There were exceptions, of course - Black Sabbath and Led Zep immediately come to mind.
Perhaps the answer is it's just very difficult to be a Brummie and cool!

Spencer Davies group? I always thought Steve Winwood was very cool and he can sing a bit and play a few instruments. Cracking the top 10 at 16 in the early 60’s was also pretty cool

 

[GT49er]

Spencer Davies group? I always thought Steve Winwood was very cool and he can sing a bit and play a few instruments. Cracking the top 10 at 16 in the early 60’s was also pretty cool

As I said, there were exceptions.

 

[GT49er]

Nope. For me, nothing Elvis has done has ever been crap. His version is less radio friendly than Edmunds'. It's more angry, in line with his persona at the time, but it's nicely soul inflected and has some classic Steve Naive crashing Abba influenced piano chord sequences on it. It's in the style of Northern Soul influenced stuff that he was doing at that time, like 'High Fidelity' and his covers of Sam & Dave's 'I Can't Stand Up For Falling Down' and Betty Everett's 'Getting Mighty Crowded'.



The Attractions were a machine at that time, motoring through every brilliant song that he came up with at full speed. Fantastic stuff. I do like Dave Edmunds version too, but I liked 'Queen of Hearts' even more.

Opinions, innit. I never liked the sound of his voice anyway, and I wouldn't even give house room to his turgid version over Edmund's. Knew a few people doing backstage work in the 70s/early 80s - some artistes were great and treated them really well; EC wasn't one of them (though not in the Chuck Berry class - nobody was!)