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Darling doubles Inheritance tax threshold







Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
I said no such thing.

And anyway, right about what?

Jesus, Glubber, you and politics are just on vague nodding terms aren't you?


we can't all be as perfect and clever as you, alas if only we could :nono:
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
I think I may as well carry on flouncing if its all the same to you, to be honest there really is no point having a policitical discussion with you as all Tories are the Devils Spawn and all Labour people are Angels, its hard to debate anything with this mindset
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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I think I may as well carry on flouncing if its all the same to you, to be honest there really is no point having a policitical discussion with you as all Tories are the Devils Spawn and all Labour people are Angels, its hard to debate anything with this mindset
I thought you might carry on flouncing. Being deliberately misrepresented pisses me off royally, as you have done again in this quoted post.

I'm happy to have a debate with you, but it can only be done on a reasonably intelletctual level. Lord knows there are plenty on here who can beat me in a political debate, and I enjoy locking horns, and I can often respect their positions when I don't agree with them. But I can't be doing with this behaviour, with your political goonery and your flouncing.

I really ought to know better than to open your 'political threads'.
 




unnameable

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Feb 25, 2004
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Oxford/Lancing
Cynical opportunism. As a socialist, Darling is bound to want to squeeze the rich by imposing punitive rates of inheritance tax. The Labour Party is intellectually bankrupt. Its sole purpose in today's world is to run capitalism better than the Tories. Clement Attlee must be turning in his grave.
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Cynical opportunism. As a socialist, Darling is bound to want to squeeze the rich by imposing punitive rates of inheritance tax. The Labour Party is intellectually bankrupt. Its sole purpose in today's world is to run capitalism better than the Tories. Clement Attlee must be turning in his grave.
That's modern day politics for you. Though I'm not convinced about the 'socialist' tag.
 






Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,098
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Not quite. Two things here.

One, the difference in raising the threshold to £700k and not £1m is the difference in not helping the top 1% earners. Secondly, not raising it to a million (something the Tories intended to do) means there would be an extra £2bn in the coffers. He is spending that on Health and Education instead.

Alan so you are honestly trying to tell me that he would have done this , this week anyway even if Cameron did not beast them last week in his speech and the tide had turned against them, you are serious telling me Labour had planned all along to double iht and also limit it to married couples off their own back as you dispute me saying they had stolen 2 tories policies ie

1. Increasing IHT threshold regardless of nit picking £ 700 k or £ 1 m
2. Giving tax breaks and incentives for married couples
 




The Large One

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Alan so you are honestly trying to tell me that he would have done this , this week anyway even if Cameron did not beast them last week in his speech and the tide had turned against them, you are serious telling me Labour had planned all along to double iht and also limit it to married couples off their own back as you dispute me saying they had stolen 2 tories policies ie

1. Increasing IHT threshold regardless of nit picking £ 700 k or £ 1 m
2. Giving tax breaks and incentives for married couples

What's the point you're making?

George Osborne shouted his mouth off at his party's conference saying how he was going to do this and the other with Inheritance Tax. Why did he have to do that? Was he convinced there was going to be an election, and if so, why didn't he wait until it was called? As was seen, it was a possible vote winner.

What has happened the spectacular naivety of Osborne has meant that the agenda was set, Brown and Darling picked up on it, first by not calling the election, which meant the Tories were gazumped, leaving them with their dicks caught in their zipper.

It matters not one jot whose policy it was originally, Labour have swiped it for their own, and the Tories have nowhere to go with it. They can scream all they want, they were the ones who laid their hands first, and as is always the case, the party in power holds the aces. The Tories are hardly going to blast the government for it; the best they will be able to come up with is 'we though of that'. Sorry, they're going to have to do better than that.

Now if this was on top of an election, it would only be taken as (as mentioned on here) cynical opportunism, and it would possibly lose votes. But it's not - an election is still two years away, and who knows what's going to happen then?
 








Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,955
Surrey
I said no such thing.

And anyway, right about what?

Jesus, Glubber, you and politics are just on vague nodding terms aren't you?
Garth is rarely correct, but this is indeed one of those times. They've blatently pinched a Tory proposal and modified it so that it's more palatable to the less well off, whilst nodding in the direction of this middle-England that The Express and Daily hateMail both seem to think makes up the majority of the nation.

Your tone is a bit patronising IMO - yes there are slight differences but the fact is, Labour have nicked a Tory policy. FACTOID.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,016
Pattknull med Haksprut
They're all a bunch of ****s

They will find some way of stitching everyone up.

Uncle H speaks the TRUTH. Personally I could not give a flying f*** about paying tax when I am dead, I would much rather not pay it while I am alive.
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Garth is rarely correct, but this is indeed one of those times. They've blatently pinched a Tory proposal and modified it so that it's more palatable to the less well off, whilst nodding in the direction of this middle-England that The Express and Daily hateMail both seem to think makes up the majority of the nation.

Your tone is a bit patronising IMO - yes there are slight differences but the fact is, Labour have nicked a Tory policy. FACTOID.

That's not what he said. He said 'I was rght all along...'.

Of course I was patronising - he ws flouncing. So there.
 




DJ Leon

New member
Aug 30, 2003
3,446
Hassocks
Wow! Two pages on the fact that Labour have appropriated a Tory policy! SHOCK. Correct me if I'm wrong but Labour's success over the last 10 years is down to approprating Tory policies and giving them a social democratic twist? Equally the Tories are now moving to the centre and have been appropriating Labour policies. That's politics!
 




The Clown of Pevensey Bay

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Jul 5, 2003
4,340
Suburbia
It's all bollocks, though. If you're a couple and you've got a half decent solicitor, you'll buy the house as "tenants in common", so you in effect have half a house each rather than one house between you.

(There's more here http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/tax-ad...ticle.html?in_article_id=404318&in_page_id=78)

This means that your inheritance tax threshold goes up to £300K or whatever, or, er, £600K if you're a couple.

Which means nothing has really changed.

This is simultaneously opportunist and stupid by Labour! Well done darling! I mean Darling!
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
Garth is rarely correct, but this is indeed one of those times. They've blatently pinched a Tory proposal and modified it so that it's more palatable to the less well off, whilst nodding in the direction of this middle-England that The Express and Daily hateMail both seem to think makes up the majority of the nation.

Your tone is a bit patronising IMO - yes there are slight differences but the fact is, Labour have nicked a Tory policy. FACTOID.

thanks Simster, I think :)
 


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