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[Albion] Dan Ashworth joins Newcastle



Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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I think he can only be judged by signings and the progress of our teams. In that sense I can’t see how he has been anymore successful than previous DofF’s. He’s signed Lamptey, a big plus, but the striker thing appears a massive failure. Previous DofF signed Biss, our best signing. Someone else spotted White, our most profitable departure. Overall, in the last ten years, we’ve made some great signings and we have been moving forwards. So I can imagine that continuing whoever comes in next.

Ben White joined when David Burke was in charge of that side of things. We’ve finally found something he got right.
 






HastingsSeagull

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Jan 13, 2010
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We didn’t have his role until he was hired. He’s in charge of setting up the academy and the same rubbish names were recruiting for the first team. If you’ve noticed, all our good signings were super young and we’ve still failed to sign a striker. He’s not the issue and has excelled, whilst those around him have been crap. No proof just gut feeling.
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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I have no idea how much of a loss he would be, depends a lot on who we look to instead I guess, but I am sure he knows an awful lot about our club that we probably wouldn't want shared with any other club, particularly not a PL rival. Personally, I don't think I could stomach seeing that Staveley woman's face on a regular basis, or delivering a return for the investment fund, which may find it's way into supporting Wahabist Madrassa's around the world, or other projects funded by the Saudi regime.
 




ShandyH

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Jan 22, 2010
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Back in London
They couldn’t plan for the obvious Welbeck injury that was almost guaranteed to happen. What makes this any different?

We’re certainly a striker short but what’s the point of bringing in the wrong one? The right ones cost a fortune.

On another note, would any of you accept double your salary knowing it meant working for that regime? I’m not sure I would. You’d be forever apologising.


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andy1980

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Feb 23, 2009
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We’re certainly a striker short but what’s the point of bringing in the wrong one? The right ones cost a fortune.

On another note, would any of you accept double your salary knowing it meant working for that regime? I’m not sure I would. You’d be forever apologising.


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I know double your money would be a factor, but so is the so called project. To build a club like Newcastle must be a tempting project, and don't forget we got him because England couldn't compete with what we offered him.
 


Javeaseagull

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Newcastle have got previous for this though haven't they. They announced Unai Emery as their new manager before having to settle for Eddie Howe.
 






sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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Hove
The club want to keep Ashworth and from the outside it looks like he has put in a great framework for stability and achieving potential throughout the club.

I hope he stays, would be disappointed if he took the Saudi cash, but if he goes we have no choice but to move on and give someone else a chance to build on the foundations Ashworth has put in place.
 


Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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If they want him, he will go. And that is a BIG loss to us. To say otherwise is nonsensical.

I am sure they have a plan B, but like a lot of plan B's it often isn't as good as Plan A.
 




el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
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The dull part of the south coast
I know double your money would be a factor, but so is the so called project. To build a club like Newcastle must be a tempting project, and don't forget we got him because England couldn't compete with what we offered him.

If that was the case then Tony Bloom et al did a wonderful selling job - leave the England gig to go to a struggling lower Premier League club (or were we in the Championship when he joined?).

Remember, it’s Newcastle who have been given permission to speak to Ashworth - not the other way round. Unlikely as it may seem it could be that Dan Ashworth has a look at the Newcastle set up and rejects it as unsuitable. On their heads be it. :wink:
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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I suppose I am technically.

However under the " Propenderance of Evidence " threshold he is most likely Guilty as Charged :)

Is that the 'no smoke without fire' reasoning that got the Guildford Four banged up?

This thread has become a minefield of allegory.

And best allusion wins.
 


sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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Hove
If they want him, he will go. And that is a BIG loss to us. To say otherwise is nonsensical.

I am sure they have a plan B, but like a lot of plan B's it often isn't as good as Plan A.

Not necessarily. Today's plan B may not have been available when we appointed Ashworth in the first place.

Much like Tony not having his cash earlier to buy albion, maybe there is a new option that wasn't around in 2018. One which is as good as Ashworth.


I agree that losing Ashworth would be a big loss - but as above we don't know what plan B is.
 






timbha

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Jul 5, 2003
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Sussex
Surely the role is about putting the right structures and (football !) philosophies in place. Lots to undo first, then the real work will start at Newcastle.

I wonder if he’ll be given a free hand!
 




Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Given Newcastle have seemingly already decided to sign Mpabbe, Lingard and Martial, I'm sure sure what there is for him to do?

Run the rule over Messi to see if he fits into the "new framework"?

I just googled 'Newcastle swoop for' and got 2,330,000 results back.

Yesterday, I got 3,770,000 results back.

I think we may be past the peak.
 




NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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Is that the 'no smoke without fire' reasoning that got the Guildford Four banged up?

This thread has become a minefield of allegory.

And best allusion wins.

Proponderance of Evidence I used means that there is s more evidence than not that he may want to speak to them
 


andy1980

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Feb 23, 2009
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If that was the case then Tony Bloom et al did a wonderful selling job - leave the England gig to go to a struggling lower Premier League club (or were we in the Championship when he joined?).

Remember, it’s Newcastle who have been given permission to speak to Ashworth - not the other way round. Unlikely as it may seem it could be that Dan Ashworth has a look at the Newcastle set up and rejects it as unsuitable. On their heads be it. :wink:
I hope he rejects newcastle it sounds like we want to keep him. Brighton job is still a very nice project. Dont forget we were given permission to talk to him when at england. If he stays I suspect he Will get a pay rise ala Barber when Liverpool were after him.

When looking at Newcastle people only see the Saudi. Sadly there is a lot more going for Newcastle than just them
 


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