[Albion] Dan Ashworth joins Newcastle

[middletoenail]

Not sure what employment law has got to do with it - they'd just pay his contract up if they wanted rid

Sorry, I meant if he gets sacked within months then he'd be well looked after

 

[Commander]

So true. I have a few friends earning 4x what I earn. I might think they'd be set up, but they have multiple private school fees, huge life insurance premiums to cover all that expense and mortgages, they buy Porches and other cars, skiing twice a year, summer holiday, second home perhaps, suddenly they are a bit of a slave to that income to sustain all that. Someone offering 2 or 3x more, they'd snap their hands off! It's all relative to the lifestyle you choose.

I don't really get why so many people can't understand this. If you got a £10K pay rise you wouldn't live exactly the same life but with an extra £10K a year in the bank, otherwise what's the point? I'm sure there is probably a number where it all becomes irrelevant, but I suspect that is far, far higher than £400K a year. Even Premier League footballers can't afford proper luxury yachts- until you get to Billionaire status there will always be something else to take you up a level. In fact once you get to be a Billionaire you start buying space rockets...

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I don't really get why so many people can't understand this. If you got a £10K pay rise you wouldn't live exactly the same life but with an extra £10K a year in the bank, otherwise what's the point? I'm sure there is probably a number where it all becomes irrelevant, but I suspect that is far, far higher than £400K a year. Even Premier League footballers can't afford proper luxury yachts- until you get to Billionaire status there will always be something else to take you up a level. In fact once you get to be a Billionaire you start buying space rockets...

Depressingly, studies show that the main reason super rich people are desperate to be even richer is because they want to be even richer than their peers

 

[Commander]

Depressingly, studies show that the main reason super rich people are desperate to be even richer is because they want to be even richer than their peers

Something has to drive them. You don't get super rich by being lucky, despite what some people seem to think. Most really successful people I've met are bordering on mentally ill with the amount of drive they have and the hours they are prepared to work to do it. Your average man on the street doesn't like that idea though, they think it should be them, but aren't actually prepared to do what it takes because they don't want it badly enough.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I don't really get why so many people can't understand this. If you got a £10K pay rise you wouldn't live exactly the same life but with an extra £10K a year in the bank, otherwise what's the point? I'm sure there is probably a number where it all becomes irrelevant, but I suspect that is far, far higher than £400K a year. Even Premier League footballers can't afford proper luxury yachts- until you get to Billionaire status there will always be something else to take you up a level. In fact once you get to be a Billionaire you start buying space rockets...

I've always believed that once you get past a couple of million, what you are primarily working for is power and prestige

And agree completely with your second post. Most of the people I know like that prioritise business above everything. Families are well compensated financially if they don't mind not having one parent in their lives. Horses for courses.

 

[Commander]

I've always believed that once you get past a couple of million, what you are primarily working for is power and prestige

And agree completely with your second post. Most of the people I know like that prioritise business above everything. Families are well compensated financially if they don't mind not having one parent in their lives. Horses for courses.

Indeed. It’s not for me personally, but I’m also not going to moan about not being super rich. I’d rather have a more enjoyable life and see my family and friends more.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Indeed. It’s not for me personally, but I’m also not going to moan about not being super rich. I’d rather have a more enjoyable life and see my family and friends more.

Though to be fair, some of the ones I've come across I think the financial compensation for the family was a far better deal than actually spending time with them

 

[FatSuperman]

I've always believed that once you get past a couple of million, what you are primarily working for is power and prestige

Indeed. To become a member of the 3 commas club is just the first step

 

[Commander]

Though to be fair, some of the ones I've come across I think the financial compensation for the family was a far better deal than actually spending time with them

Haha yep, very true.

 

[rippleman]

Completely agree with this...................very highly paid people are quite often they are committed up to their eyeballs with huge mortgages etc and maintaining a lifestyle that means they have to keep going. Whilst £400k is an absolute fortune to most, if you've got a seven figure mortgage, 2 or 3 kids in an expensive public school and a 100k car on PCP your £200k or so net already has a pretty big hole in it.

But quite a few people have had to adjust their lifestyle because of a change in their employment / personal circumstances.

You can downsize your property, it isn't compulsory to privately educate your kids (if you look at our cabinet you can see why private education doesn't actually work) and nobody ever needs a 100K car etc.

"Cut the cloth to suit the purse"

 

[Wardy's twin]

Something has to drive them. You don't get super rich by being lucky, despite what some people seem to think. Most really successful people I've met are bordering on mentally ill with the amount of drive they have and the hours they are prepared to work to do it. Your average man on the street doesn't like that idea though, they think it should be them, but aren't actually prepared to do what it takes because they don't want it badly enough.

I think you missed out that many (but not all) are grade 1 c*nts who would sell their granny if it got them up the greasy pole quicker .

 

[Commander]

But quite a few people have had to adjust their lifestyle because of a change in their employment / personal circumstances.

You can downsize your property, it isn't compulsory to privately educate your kids (if you look at our cabinet you can see why private education doesn't actually work) and nobody ever needs a 100K car etc.

"Cut the cloth to suit the purse"

Yes, but why would you? We're talking about Ashworth going to Newcastle. He's hardly going to go and work for Crawley and downgrade his house, is he?

The privately educated people you are talking about are running the country! I'm not sure how you can say that is evidence that it doesn't work...

 

[Berty23]

I have a couple of mates driven by money and I don’t envy them one bit. They work daft hours. Never see their kids (boarding school) and can’t answer the question “when will you be happy with what you have?” A few years ago I asked one that question and he said “when I have made a million” well he is clearly there now but wants more. When he gets there he will want more and so on. I worry he will get to 60 and think “where did my life go?” Me and the rest of our gang from uni (early 40s) have met for Xmas meal every year since 2001. This year both the two loaded mates binned us off to go with their other friends. I have met most of the other friends at my mate’s wedding in Portugal a couple of years back and they are the biggest bunch of back-stabbing self-congratulating nobs with the shallowest friendships you could ever wish to see.

The weirdest thing is that when our group of mates went to Vegas some years earlier we joked about them getting “better friends” once loaded and here we are. The bizarre thing is that when anything goes wrong it will always be us that help out. That’s what mates are for.

It is quite sad actually.

 

[Danny Wilson Said]

Yes, but why would you? We're talking about Ashworth going to Newcastle. He's hardly going to go and work for Crawley and downgrade his house, is he?

The privately educated people you are talking about are running the country! I'm not sure how you can say that is evidence that it doesn't work...

They're running the country because too many forelock-tugging, cap-doffing people equate a posh accent with intelligence and competence, against much of the evidence.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

I think you missed out that many (but not all) are grade 1 c*nts who would sell their granny if it got them up the greasy pole quicker .

I think there are many different reasons why certain people become super-successful. I've known a few and often there's a certain amount of luck involved - mainly being in the right place at the right time - and even sometimes an element of grade 1 what you said above. But mostly I agree that they are driven and are prepared to do things and take risks that most of us just wouldn't. For example, move to a strange city, give up a steady job, go into debt to back their judgement, continually put themselves in the frame for things. Mostly they have an astonishing amount of front and aren't afraid of failing at first or looking stupid.

 

[dazzer6666]

But quite a few people have had to adjust their lifestyle because of a change in their employment / personal circumstances.

You can downsize your property, it isn't compulsory to privately educate your kids (if you look at our cabinet you can see why private education doesn't actually work) and nobody ever needs a 100K car etc.

"Cut the cloth to suit the purse"

Sorry - can't see what that has got to do with it ?? Sure Ashworth could pack it all in and go and work at the local supermarket if he needed to, but it's irrelevant.

 

[dazzer6666]

I have a couple of mates driven by money and I don’t envy them one bit. They work daft hours. Never see their kids (boarding school) and can’t answer the question “when will you be happy with what you have?” A few years ago I asked one that question and he said “when I have made a million” well he is clearly there now but wants more. When he gets there he will want more and so on. I worry he will get to 60 and think “where did my life go?” Me and the rest of our gang from uni (early 40s) have met for Xmas meal every year since 2001. This year both the two loaded mates binned us off to go with their other friends. I have met most of the other friends at my mate’s wedding in Portugal a couple of years back and they are the biggest bunch of back-stabbing self-congratulating nobs with the shallowest friendships you could ever wish to see.

The weirdest thing is that when our group of mates went to Vegas some years earlier we joked about them getting “better friends” once loaded and here we are. The bizarre thing is that when anything goes wrong it will always be us that help out. That’s what mates are for.

It is quite sad actually.

100% this..........seen similar so many times, and was one of the reasons I stopped working last year. Absolutely surrounded by people whose only aim in life seemed to be getting a bigger house than yow, a better car than yow and being able to say how 'super proud' they were about their latest promotion on LinkedIn. They will NEVER have 'enough'

 

[Superphil]

Families are well compensated financially if they don't mind not having one parent in their lives. Horses for courses.

Horses being one of the ways they compensate their family, in particular, but not exclusively, their female offspring.

 

[Commander]

They're running the country because too many forelock-tugging, cap-doffing people equate a posh accent with intelligence and competence, against much of the evidence.

So it does work then.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Save me trawling through this thread, has he gone to Newcastle then?