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Dale Stephens' appeal [Update: appeal rejected, 3 game ban stands]
- Thread starter bhanutz
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But Alan Mullery has a book on Kindle! Every cloud 
Aveacarlin'
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- Jul 5, 2011
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Yes, but let's not forget to clap the Wednesday fans when the away attendance is announced.
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surlyseagull
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- Aug 23, 2008
- 848
I think SW are under the illusion we are only a one man team and have no replacements ,as posted this will galvanize the team, and make us attack even more intently .We know this was a sham the team knows it and so do most intelligent football fans so lets not waste any more energy on this and get behind the team .
TSB
Captain Hindsight
http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2016/may/charges-hearing-results-suspensions-appeals
Have a looksie here tomorrow.
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
- 11,033
This is going to be a minority and unpopular view, but I don't like the level of malice in the criticism of Dean (or minded, widening it out, referees in general over decisions like this). It is even arguable as to whether he made a mistake. At the very least Rule 12 on serious foul play, and the interpretation, leaves room for debate and argument.
He didn't award a Boro goal that was three yards offside. He didn't award a Boro penalty that was three yards outside the area. He didn't disallow a Brighton goal that was a yard over.
The issue of intent is irrelevant, so is the fact he touched the ball first, and so is the fact Dean may have changed his mind. We have had a few bad rubs this year, and this was another. But it wasn't the outrageous decision it has been painted, just because it was worth so much money to us.
Has it really cost us promotion? What about not turning up in the first half at Boro when we could easily have been 3 or 4-0 down? What about not beating Derby at home in a 'must-win' game? What about Dunk's month of madness last year? Or all the points we dropped from winning positions?
The fact is the team have performed brilliantly, well above expectation this season - and we would all have bitten anyone's hand off to be in this position. If there is any justice we will go up, we are miles better than Wednesday and we have to prove it again. If Hughton feels using some sense of injustice will help, great, but we shouldn't need that anyway.
He didn't award a Boro goal that was three yards offside. He didn't award a Boro penalty that was three yards outside the area. He didn't disallow a Brighton goal that was a yard over.
The issue of intent is irrelevant, so is the fact he touched the ball first, and so is the fact Dean may have changed his mind. We have had a few bad rubs this year, and this was another. But it wasn't the outrageous decision it has been painted, just because it was worth so much money to us.
Has it really cost us promotion? What about not turning up in the first half at Boro when we could easily have been 3 or 4-0 down? What about not beating Derby at home in a 'must-win' game? What about Dunk's month of madness last year? Or all the points we dropped from winning positions?
The fact is the team have performed brilliantly, well above expectation this season - and we would all have bitten anyone's hand off to be in this position. If there is any justice we will go up, we are miles better than Wednesday and we have to prove it again. If Hughton feels using some sense of injustice will help, great, but we shouldn't need that anyway.
Mayonaise
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I am as angry as the next fan over this injustice but well said.
TSB
Captain Hindsight
Yeah. It was. But thanks for taking the trouble.
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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I'm weary but three points:
1. Stephens didn't touch the ball first. He touched the ball. Ramirez didn't have it.
2. We weren't 3 or 4-0 down. It was 1-1. We were in the ascendancy.
3. No one will be able to say it cost us promotion. For a start we may still get promoted. But it did severely hamper our chances on Saturday and leaves us weakened for the play-offs. It certainly hasn't helped our promotion prospects.
surlyseagull
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- Aug 23, 2008
- 848
Jeez if we cant vent our disapproval or frustrations on our own fans forum then where can we ...
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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1. Irrelevant, as stated, to what happens after.
2. We could have been 3-0 up if we'd turned up at the start.
3. Over 46 games, in a match we went on draw with 10 men, a drop in the ocean.
Finchley Seagull
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No and we probably never will. They are faceless incompetents and will never be held accountable
East Preston Gull
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Bill Archer, Grey Stanley, Mark Bright and Don Goodman. On the secondary panel is Mike Dean, Mike Dean and some bloke who owns Middlesborough, umm Gibson I think his name is.
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Finchley Seagull
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Exactly. I find it funny that Boro fans are coming on here and are all over the BHAFC hashtag saying get over it as well. This is our place to vent. I was hoping that knowing the FA wouldn't do the right thing would make it easier but when I heard the appeal was rejected, I was angry all over again.
As transparent as FIFA then