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Bad Ash

Unregistered User
Jul 18, 2003
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Thanks. Sounds like a power meter wont be the training revolution I'd hoped for!

I was a bit tipsy last night, so probably didn't explain things too well. Butf or your own training is where the power meter should come into its element because the readings should be consistent. Therefore if one ride has more power than another that means you are producing more power. And if you are going quicker for a lower (or equal) power then there has been an improvement in the conditions (though narrowing it down to what exactly has improved could be hard). I've been reading a time trialling forum and some of the blokes on there take their testing very seriously; repeating the same loop many times in similar weather conditions and making tiny alterations to their setup.

Comparing power readings from different sources is less useful because the readings are much less likely to be consistent. Over the winter I do a spinning/rpm class and the bikes haves 'power' reading, however that figure only really means anything in one class on the one bike as the calibration of the readings differ so much. E.g. In one class I might have to really put the hammer down to get close to '300w' and in others I'm spinning '300w' in the warmup. However once I've used a bike for a few minutes I can adjust my scale (or more likely hop on another bike which tells me I'm producing much more power). If I used the same bike for every class then it'd be different and I could probably compare my efforts between classes.
 




Glanders

Active member
Mar 12, 2012
202
I agree totally with the above. I have a P2max on my TT bike and it's excellent for intervals. I also use a wattbike occasionally and the power function is equally useful, but the power values generated are quite different. This will partly be down to position (aero is almost always at the cost of some power), but I also think the wattbike over-reads relative to the P2max. Either way, it's within-device consistency that you really need and I'm sure most currently available units will deliver that. I'm just yet to get my head round using mine for racing.



(Plus they're great for geeking.)
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Wow, you guys are really putting the Geek in the Cycling Geeks thread today! :lolol:

All very useful information though.
 


Indurain's Lungs

Legend of Garry Nelson
Jun 22, 2010
2,260
Dorset
I agree totally with the above. I have a P2max on my TT bike and it's excellent for intervals. I also use a wattbike occasionally and the power function is equally useful, but the power values generated are quite different. This will partly be down to position (aero is almost always at the cost of some power), but I also think the wattbike over-reads relative to the P2max. Either way, it's within-device consistency that you really need and I'm sure most currently available units will deliver that. I'm just yet to get my head round using mine for racing.



(Plus they're great for geeking.)
Geelong is the most important bit!

The limits meter wont come until the end of the year so I'll carry on this year and see if I want a proper tilt at the tri*****n next year (with a few club 10s thrown in maybe!).
 






Indurain's Lungs

Legend of Garry Nelson
Jun 22, 2010
2,260
Dorset
Geelong is the most important bit!

The limits meter wont come until the end of the year so I'll carry on this year and see if I want a proper tilt at the tri*****n next year (with a few club 10s thrown in maybe!).
Ha! Geelong! How did predictive text get that from geeking?!

Testing was never my strongest suit but I was passable so be interesting to see how far off I am now!
 


1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
So, taking the geekometer right back to beginner level for a bit...

Puncture repair kits - WTF is that plastic backing on the patches all about!? Never bloody peels off for me after I've stuck the patch down and waited a bit :rant: And then I end up with a leak at the edge where I've tried to peel it off :cry:
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Really interesting stage at the Four days of Dunkirk today. Worth catching the last twenty kilometres if you can.
 




1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
Really interesting stage at the Four days of Dunkirk today. Worth catching the last twenty kilometres if you can.

It's blowing a proper hooley here so I can only imagine what it's like there at the moment. Interesting it certainly will be if those winds have anything to do with it.
I could almost have got to work yesterday and today without pedalling, and it's uphill going too! Coming home has been a bit scary mind when a cross wind from a side road hits you full on.
 


Indurain's Lungs

Legend of Garry Nelson
Jun 22, 2010
2,260
Dorset
It's blowing a proper hooley here so I can only imagine what it's like there at the moment. Interesting it certainly will be if those winds have anything to do with it.
I could almost have got to work yesterday and today without pedalling, and it's uphill going too! Coming home has been a bit scary mind when a cross wind from a side road hits you full on.
Strava segment weather!
 






Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Weather, health and all round general happiness permitting, does anyone fancy a:-

CLUB RIDE SATURDAY 16TH MAY - next Saturday.

8:30 Brighton Pier heading easterly.
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Weather, health and all round general happiness permitting, does anyone fancy a:-

CLUB RIDE SATURDAY 16TH MAY - next Saturday.

8:30 Brighton Pier heading easterly.

Boooo!

Great Escape weekend! I shall be working from 10am until 2am. Sad times. Though to be fair it is unlikely I can make any weekends, so just ignore me.
 


1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
Weather, health and all round general happiness permitting, does anyone fancy a:-

CLUB RIDE SATURDAY 16TH MAY - next Saturday.

8:30 Brighton Pier heading easterly.

Well that's the first election promise broken already then. What happened to the next ride starting over in the East to even things up?
For that reason, and the fact that I'm feeling particularly grumpy after last night's democracy in action....I'm out.
 




Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Amidst all this political hullabaloo, we seem to have forgotten that there is a cycling race starting tomorrow. In fact not just a cycling race but the best cycling race (well my favourite).

Any predictions?

I'm hoping for some trying to take it to Contador early on, he is definitely going to start undercooked and there are a few lumpy stages first week.

My top 3

1. Contador
2. Porte
3. Uran

Points jersey will go to Matthews

King of the Mountains- Maciej Paterski

Annoying are they clean are they not award shared between Aru and Zakarin.
 


1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
Amidst all this political hullabaloo, we seem to have forgotten that there is a cycling race starting tomorrow. In fact not just a cycling race but the best cycling race (well my favourite).

Any predictions?

I'm hoping for some trying to take it to Contador early on, he is definitely going to start undercooked and there are a few lumpy stages first week.

My top 3

1. Contador
2. Porte
3. Uran

Points jersey will go to Matthews

King of the Mountains- Maciej Paterski

Annoying are they clean are they not award shared between Aru and Zakarin.

Was quite a performance in Romandy wasn't it. Beating team mate and short stage race specialist Spilak too.

I certainly wasn't convinced by Aru at last years Giro that's for sure.

I'd offer my own predictions, but they'd all be wrong, and I can't be arsed either. I will be watching as much of it as possible though.
 


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Well that's the first election promise broken already then. What happened to the next ride starting over in the East to even things up?
For that reason, and the fact that I'm feeling particularly grumpy after last night's democracy in action....I'm out.
Now I'm confused, this if anyone is interested, is heading easterly.

Even though it's still west for you it's east for everyone else, except Moto.
 


1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,233
Now I'm confused, this if anyone is interested, is heading easterly.

Even though it's still west for you it's east for everyone else, except Moto.

Keep spinning :lol:
 




Indurain's Lungs

Legend of Garry Nelson
Jun 22, 2010
2,260
Dorset
Amidst all this political hullabaloo, we seem to have forgotten that there is a cycling race starting tomorrow. In fact not just a cycling race but the best cycling race (well my favourite).

Any predictions?

I'm hoping for some trying to take it to Contador early on, he is definitely going to start undercooked and there are a few lumpy stages first week.

My top 3

1. Contador
2. Porte
3. Uran

Points jersey will go to Matthews

King of the Mountains- Maciej Paterski

Annoying are they clean are they not award shared between Aru and Zakarin.
Zakarin of previous doping ban fame?!
 




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