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Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,327
Dunno what they're doing having 'scheduled services' and 'timetables' in the first place. No doubt jumping through the same kind of petty hoops the Albion have to, just to keep their business up and running.

You'd think the council would welcome them, and that the taxi companies would leave them alone, as the level of threat they pose to their businesses must be minimal.

Would be pretty rubbish if this fun idea was nipped in the bud through spite and petty bureaucracy. Anywhere else, they'd be welcomed with open arms. Well apart from LDC land. Obviously.
 
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They are supposed to run every five minutes, but they sometimes leave gaps of up to forty minutes. And they hang around at the station, waiting for passengers - when there might easily be people wanting to get on a tuk tuk at the clock tower.

How many people find that when one eventually turns up, it is already occupied by passengers? So they have to wait for the next one - whenever that is?

If any other part of the public transport system operated as unreliably as this, there would be petitions to get it shut down.

Tuc Tuc Limited should - at the very least - be forced to comply with the conditions of their licence and run the service that they advertise.
 


HampshireSeagulls

Moulding Generation Z
Jul 19, 2005
5,264
Bedford
Lord Bracknell said:
They are supposed to run every five minutes, but they sometimes leave gaps of up to forty minutes. And they hang around at the station, waiting for passengers - when there might easily be people wanting to get on a tuk tuk at the clock tower.

How many people find that when one eventually turns up, it is already occupied by passengers? So they have to wait for the next one - whenever that is?

If any other part of the public transport system operated as unreliably as this, there would be petitions to get it shut down.

Tuc Tuc Limited should - at the very least - be forced to comply with the conditions of their licence and run the service that they advertise.

But they are a private company, so calling for them to be "shut down" is rather pointless? All you can do is either (a) not use them, or (b) lodge a complaint with the licensing committee. I am sure the taxi drivers would be willing to arrange a discount service for you in return!
 




Blatant straw-clutching NIMBYism from the cabbies. What do they care if the Tuk Tuks are running less services than they should, it just means more passengers for them.

And so what if Tuk Tuks hang about at the station? Taxis stop and pick people up from Tuk Tuk stops - don't see them doing it at bus stops.

It just seems that after trying, and failing, to 'do' the Tuk Tuks on safety grounds, they're now trying every other option to have them taken out of business, regardless of whether it's in the public interest or not. Remind you of anyone else you can think of?
 


Tory Boy

Active member
Jun 14, 2004
971
Brighton
The vehicle inspectors VOSA said they were the worst run bus service they had ever seen.

The independant transport surveyors Bucanan said they were the worst run bus service they had ever seen.

The only bit of good news for the Tuk Tuks came from their own survey, which just put them over the legal limit of compliance.

But it's worth noting Mr Tuk Tuk told those surveyors when and where to survey, so you could say that was a little bit naughty.

Evidence was also given at the inquiry about the dangers of these vehicles and the fact that most of the time the vehicles are in the garage, and have cost Mr Tuk Tuk over £80,000 in maintanance since he bought them earlier this year.

Another issue that may be of interest is that these drivers are un-checked and un-licensed. But then again if you are driving a third world vehicle, then one shouldn't be surprised with third world driving standards.

TB
 


HampshireSeagulls

Moulding Generation Z
Jul 19, 2005
5,264
Bedford
Tory Boy said:
The vehicle inspectors VOSA said they were the worst run bus service they had ever seen.

The independant transport surveyors Bucanan said they were the worst run bus service they had ever seen.

The only bit of good news for the Tuk Tuks came from their own survey, which just put them over the legal limit of compliance.

But it's worth noting Mr Tuk Tuk told those surveyors when and where to survey, so you could say that was a little bit naughty.

Evidence was also given at the inquiry about the dangers of these vehicles and the fact that most of the time the vehicles are in the garage, and have cost Mr Tuk Tuk over £80,000 in maintanance since he bought them earlier this year.

Another issue that may be of interest is that these drivers are un-checked and un-licensed. But then again if you are driving a third world vehicle, then one shouldn't be surprised with third world driving standards.

TB

And the other survey was carried out under the control of three taxi companies. If you don't like them, don't use them, it really is that simple.
 






Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,875
Brighton, UK
Lord Bracknell said:
They are supposed to run every five minutes, but they sometimes leave gaps of up to forty minutes.
Thank god the buses in Brighton are so fastidiously punctual then. :rolleyes:
 


Mr Banana

Tedious chump
Aug 8, 2005
5,491
Standing in the way of control
HampshireSeagulls said:
If you don't like them, don't use them, it really is that simple.

Spot on mate.

The tuk tuks are a bit of a shambles, but they are far less of a disgrace than the money-grabbing, piss-poor quality bus service and extortionate taxis driven largely by blokes who didn't make the cut for Dude Where's My Car?
 




Tom Bombadil

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2003
6,106
Jibrovia
Lord Bracknell said:
They are supposed to run every five minutes, but they sometimes leave gaps of up to forty minutes. And they hang around at the station, waiting for passengers - when there might easily be people wanting to get on a tuk tuk at the clock tower.

How many people find that when one eventually turns up, it is already occupied by passengers? So they have to wait for the next one - whenever that is?

If any other part of the public transport system operated as unreliably as this, there would be petitions to get it shut down.

Tuc Tuc Limited should - at the very least - be forced to comply with the conditions of their licence and run the service that they advertise.

I must say I'm surprised to see you supporting small groups with vested interests who hide behind rules and use the legal system to try to prevent things the majority of the community want.
 


MikeySmall

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
1,073
BRIGHTON
Benny Zamora said:
Spot on mate.

The tuk tuks are a bit of a shambles, but they are far less of a disgrace than the money-grabbing, piss-poor quality bus service and extortionate taxis driven largely by blokes who didn't make the cut for Dude Where's My Car?
:lolol: :lolol:
 


Voroshilov said:
I must say I'm surprised to see you supporting small groups with vested interests who hide behind rules and use the legal system to try to prevent things the majority of the community want.
I'll concede that quite a lot of people like the idea that Brighton is a wacky sort of place that has wacky vehicles running about the streets.

But it's plainly the case that very few people are actually using tuk tuks as anything other than a fun experience - a bit like a walk on the pier or a beer in the Lord Nelson.

They offer no serious competition to either the taxis or the buses.

Tuc Tuc Limited are, however, regulated by a licence issued by the Traffic Commissioner - who does have powers to shut them down, by removing the licence. If the company is claiming that their system could be developed to be a real part of the UK's transport system, it will have to demonstrate that they can run services in accordance with the regulations that apply.

So far, it looks like they are not even trying to do that.

My prediction is that they won't last much longer unless they sort their act out.

Incidentally, I doubt if the Traffic Commissioner will give much weight to either of the surveys that have been done on behalf of the parties who have a vested commercial interest - either Tuc Tuc Limited or the taxi trade. He will, however, give a great deal of weight to the evidence given at the Inquiry by the VOSA inspectors.
 






Dennis and Lois

New member
Aug 10, 2006
233
Two of the 49
I'm not goin over old coals again, can't wait to get to Thailand in December where the population are adult enough to choose whether to use them or not.

PS did the Argus say one was reported for carrying twice the legal amount of passengers?

SIX PEOPLE IN A TUK TUK!? yeah right
 


Lady Bracknell

Handbag at Dawn
Jul 5, 2003
4,514
The Metropolis
Precisely, so why the utter PETTINESS from the taxi firms?

Because they are mainly ARSEHOLES!

The problems that the tuc-tucs face is that we've got a really convoluted licensing system that requires every vehicle providing passenger transport services to fit into a number of rigid categories. Tuc-tucs are something of a wild card and, in my opinion, it was always barmy to make them register under the same legislation as local bus services since the way they operate is much closer to that of a taxi (or, to be horribly precise in an anorakky way) a hackney carriage.

But you register anything in competition with a taxi at your peril!
 
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