Curtains for the BBC...

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Agreed. I would say that a majority of Conservative voters actually want a strong global BBC, it reflects well on the country as a whole.

I can understand that some Conservative voters feel that an agenda that has prioritised social progressiveness at the expense of everything else has been rammed unsubtly down their throats, but that doesn’t mean they all want the entire infrastructure dismantled, just that they want to feel a bit less like they’re being preached to.

These loonies who want to completely dismantle Britain’s soft power infrastructure are very much guilty of throwing the baby out with the bath water, and are being cheered on all the way by a small number of nation states and global media moguls who find the BBC expensive and annoying to have to compete with.

Politicians are conflating media support from those who have to compete with the BBC with widespread public support, when even after years of anti-BBC articles, most of Britain retains a great deal of affection for the BBC.

We don’t want to import all our culture. We want to create and maintain some of our own. The BBC is our strongest institution by far in that regard, and should be celebrated and strengthened.


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There is no strategy.This is just Johnson being a ****. Again.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Meanwhile back on topic here's a valid article

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/01/19/why-should-we-pay-for-a-bbc-that-hates-us/


Regards
DF

I agree with all that.

Apart from the 'valid' bit. You might review the difference between 'valid' and 'what you think'. There may well be a difference

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

[MENTION=12825]cunning fergus[/MENTION]

I genuinely have no idea what on earth you are going on about. That’s not an insult or a dig, I simply cannot understand what it is you’re accusing me of.

I’ve never really noticed you before so I don’t know if this is your regular posting style or you’re having a bit of a tizzy. Whatever it is, be a darling and leave me out of it please.

I have him on ignore. Not for being rude or batshit right wing, but for being incomprehensibe and a threat to my sanity. Most peculiar.

 

[The Clamp]

I have him on ignore. Not for being rude or batshit right wing, but for being incomprehensibe and a threat to my sanity. Most peculiar.

He seems like a wrong un and I won't be engaging with him any further. Toxic poster.

 

[cunning fergus]

I have him on ignore. Not for being rude or batshit right wing, but for being incomprehensibe and a threat to my sanity. Most peculiar.

I was going to comment on the frequency of which you comment about who you have on ignore, classic narcissism, but then I noted you had hoisted yourself with your own petard.

Bravo…….comedy gold………made my day.

 

[cunning fergus]

He seems like a wrong un and I won't be engaging with him any further. Toxic poster.

Time will tell, I have say I have you down as a Herbert that will talk the talk but not walk the walk……an empty vessel if you will.

Trip up on this Clampy and the only stink will be your familiar eau du bulls*t………regardless of what you say in your signature.

Cheerio.

 

[Lever]

...and those are the visceral, aggressive responses, void of supported argument, debate or relevance that I am referring to.........

 

[cunning fergus]

Yes, read it. Incredibly strange that a Tory government that just loves to live in the past re Empire, Statues, Union flags and the BBC... wants to destroy the BBC ? Would a commercialised BBC find any reason to play the National Anthem ? strangely ITV, C4, C5 don't bother ?

If your assessment is correct the Tories would push on and do it, but they won’t because they don’t really want it destoyed. Same with the EU, those running the Tory party didn’t really want to leave, after all it was a Tory PM that took us in.

Tory supporters on the other hand will be overwhelmingly prepared to pull the plug on the BBC, especially given how it currently operates, just like they were overwhelmingly hostile to the EU as it morphed from a trading bloc into a politicised quasi state.

This is much more about the political class and the wider establishment and how they tease their supporters, the Labour Party has the same challenge.

Like Brexit though if there is enough will from the bottom up, it will shift the paradigm. Brexit was delivered because enough of the general public distrusted the establishment view on the benefits of the EU.

The BBC is going the same way, whether or not Truss or Dorries really wants to destroy it or is using this as a distraction. Millions have stopped paying…….the momentum is only going one way.

 

[Lever]

Yes, read it. Incredibly strange that a Tory government that just loves to live in the past re Empire, Statues, Union flags and the BBC... wants to destroy the BBC ? Would a commercialised BBC find any reason to play the National Anthem ? strangely ITV, C4, C5 don't bother ?

In many ways this is not a Tory government in the historical sense. It's more of a cabal that has developed post Brexit under leadership that has no political convictions or interest in anything but keeping power and supporting the self proclaimed 'world king'. Many tory grandees are horrified by what is happening......

 

[cunning fergus]

...and those are the visceral, aggressive responses, void of supported argument, debate or relevance that I am referring to.........

Jeez, you sound like someone that actually shits their pants when someone drops a glass in a pub. Do you actually leave the house?

My responses entirely consistent with the messages that refer to me, they are at worst sarcastic……get over yourself and get some fresh air.

 

[Lever]

Jeez, you sound like someone that actually shits their pants when someone drops a glass in a pub. Do you actually leave the house?

My responses entirely consistent with the messages that refer to me, they are at worst sarcastic……get over yourself and get some fresh air.

Perhaps a little self reflection on your personalised style of writing and the vacuous, unsupported statements you make might help? Have another try.....

 

[WATFORD zero]

Time will tell, I have say I have you down as a Herbert that will talk the talk but not walk the walk……an empty vessel if you will.

Trip up on this Clampy and the only stink will be your familiar eau du bulls*t………regardless of what you say in your signature.

Cheerio.

Walk the walk

Well I guess Financial Compliance may be an excellent way to assert influence and make significant political change, similar to the way Accountancy is an excellent way to tame lions

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Perhaps a little self reflection on your personalised style of writing and the vacuous, unsupported statements you make might help? Have another try.....

You never make a statement ! you're just a endless line of questions and flakey comments

Regards
DF

 

[Lever]

You never make a statement ! you're just a endless line of questions and flakey comments

Regards
DF

Why do you think that? What would you like me to say about you?

 

[Chicken Run]

Why do you think that? What would you like me to say about you?

I can’t speak for Das but can I politely put a request that you don’t say anything about him.


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[Randy McNob]

If your assessment is correct the Tories would push on and do it, but they won’t because they don’t really want it destoyed. Same with the EU, those running the Tory party didn’t really want to leave, after all it was a Tory PM that took us in.

Tory supporters on the other hand will be overwhelmingly prepared to pull the plug on the BBC, especially given how it currently operates, just like they were overwhelmingly hostile to the EU as it morphed from a trading bloc into a politicised quasi state.

This is much more about the political class and the wider establishment and how they tease their supporters, the Labour Party has the same challenge.

Like Brexit though if there is enough will from the bottom up, it will shift the paradigm. Brexit was delivered because enough of the general public distrusted the establishment view on the benefits of the EU.

The BBC is going the same way, whether or not Truss or Dorries really wants to destroy it or is using this as a distraction. Millions have stopped paying…….the momentum is only going one way.

The common theme with all Tory policy is how we should get rid of everything and have less, cranked up a few notches since 2016 with assaults on our democracy and rights i.e. freedom of movement and right to protest. So they've succesfully sold the idea that the National Broadcaster despite 100 years of success is another thing not in their interest. Now they can sell it off where Tories and friends will make a pretty penny. Rich get richer, ordinary people and the country as a whole are worse off.

No one could give an example of how these policies have benefitted them but they will still vote that way.

Next on the list: The NHS

All you have to do is look at who's selling it to you - People who saw other people dying of a global disease and saw it as an opportunity to increase company profits

 

[Lever]

I can’t speak for Das but can I politely put a request that you don’t say anything about him.


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Of course I will resist the temptation unless specifically requested by him to pass comment.....

 

[Chicken Run]

The common theme with all Tory policy is how we should get rid of everything and have less, cranked up a few notches since 2016 with assaults on our democracy and rights i.e. freedom of movement and right to protest. So they've succesfully sold the idea that the National Broadcaster despite 100 years of success is another thing not in their interest. Now they can sell it off where Tories and friends will make a pretty penny. Rich get richer, ordinary people and the country as a whole are worse off.

No one could give an example of how these policies have benefitted them but they will still vote that way.

Next on the list: The NHS

All you have to do is look at who's selling it to you - People who saw other people dying of a global disease and saw it as an opportunity to increase company profits

Where did you copy and paste this from HT? Btw has the Frau forgiven you yet?


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[cunning fergus]

The common theme with all Tory policy is how we should get rid of everything and have less, cranked up a few notches since 2016 with assaults on our democracy and rights i.e. freedom of movement and right to protest. So they've succesfully sold the idea that the National Broadcaster despite 100 years of success is another thing not in their interest. Now they can sell it off where Tories and friends will make a pretty penny. Rich get richer, ordinary people and the country as a whole are worse off.

No one could give an example of how these policies have benefitted them but they will still vote that way.

Next on the list: The NHS

All you have to do is look at who's selling it to you - People who saw other people dying of a global disease and saw it as an opportunity to increase company profits

The precious NHS is always up for sale, not least in the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/22/ttip-deal-real-serious-risk-nhs-leading-qc

At least out of the EU our politicians need to do this type of thing in the open, and if the policies of political parties garner public support so be it, whether that’s privatising the NHS or removing the licence fee.

Democracy innit.

 

[cunning fergus]

Walk the walk

Well I guess Financial Compliance may be an excellent way to assert influence and make significant political change, similar to the way Accountancy is an excellent way to tame lions

I will say it again, your fascination in my personal life (like others in the buffudled narcissist gang) is flattering but weird.

You’re like a pound shop Barry George creeping about, whispering to people about cunning fergus trying to pick up scraps of information about me that you can put on this board, like I’m expected to be impressed?

In contrast I know absolutely nothing about you…….and you know why right?