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Cullip to Sheff Utd
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Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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What is the point of charging fans £447 for a season ticket, then selling all of the best players in the middle of the season, resulting in almost certain relegation?
The fans paid that money in the expectation of watching a semblance of an Albion side.
As Johnny Rotten once said "Ever felt you've been cheated?!"
The fans paid that money in the expectation of watching a semblance of an Albion side.
As Johnny Rotten once said "Ever felt you've been cheated?!"
Fran Hagarty
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Pavilionaire said:
I'd rather pay £447 and have a team to watch that at least has a chance of remaining in this division than go into administration and have virtually no chance whatsoever. I'd be as fed up as the next person to see our best players having to be sold but I pay my money to watch the team I support, regardless of its composition.
Meade's Ball
Well-known member
I'd rather have a club than retain the services of one defender who has probably had his time now. I love DC, but wouldn't begrudge him the chance to "better" himself or for the club to get a fee for him when we need it. The harsh realities of football have always been thus.
Dave the OAP
Well-known member
Sometimes I come on here to relieve the tedium at work and look for a bit of light relief...however....
..I do not think I have ever known a period, apart from the obvious, when I have been so depressed about things at the Albion.
i know its irrational, I know there is no real logic to it, but all we seem to get now is "such and such is on his way"...." Dan Harding is the devil incarnate.."...."we cant pay a tea lady at the moment..." "..falmer this and Falmer that..." .." Peseus shit stirring again......." "..no atmosphere..." ..." racist fans..."
I want to stay in this division....I want to go to places like, West ham, Sunderland. Notts Forest, Ipswich etc etc. I dont want to go to Barnsley, Stockport, Luton.....I want us to keep our best players, I want us to keep our youngsters, I want us to present to the world that we are rewarding our supporters who have to put up with a shite stadium, nowhere to park around said place, getting rained on, no atmosphere.....
What I dont want is us to become a side that sells anyone we see as critical to the team.
..I do not think I have ever known a period, apart from the obvious, when I have been so depressed about things at the Albion.
i know its irrational, I know there is no real logic to it, but all we seem to get now is "such and such is on his way"...." Dan Harding is the devil incarnate.."...."we cant pay a tea lady at the moment..." "..falmer this and Falmer that..." .." Peseus shit stirring again......." "..no atmosphere..." ..." racist fans..."
I want to stay in this division....I want to go to places like, West ham, Sunderland. Notts Forest, Ipswich etc etc. I dont want to go to Barnsley, Stockport, Luton.....I want us to keep our best players, I want us to keep our youngsters, I want us to present to the world that we are rewarding our supporters who have to put up with a shite stadium, nowhere to park around said place, getting rained on, no atmosphere.....
What I dont want is us to become a side that sells anyone we see as critical to the team.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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The question we are all asking is how can the club suddenly run out of funds midway through the season on the back of the play-off success, the Spurs draw and the Currie money and forced retirement of 3 of the bigger wage-earners?
If the above 4 things had not happened where would the club be now?
I can take relegation, set-backs etc, but I want some ENTERTAINMENT for my money as well.
If the above 4 things had not happened where would the club be now?
I can take relegation, set-backs etc, but I want some ENTERTAINMENT for my money as well.
Stinky Kat
Tripping
Re: Re: For Gods sake keep this team together
As I said there will always be a hardcore of support but you have to be attractive to people to get new punters through the door. The club does not sell out at withdean in this league against so called glamour clubs so in div 1 the stadium will be emptier still.
Its a balancing act that I personally believe the board have got wrong - if we put all our eggs in one basket and it goes wrong then its addios.
We need a team that is good to watch as well as moving forward to a new ground
Yorkie said:
As I said there will always be a hardcore of support but you have to be attractive to people to get new punters through the door. The club does not sell out at withdean in this league against so called glamour clubs so in div 1 the stadium will be emptier still.
Its a balancing act that I personally believe the board have got wrong - if we put all our eggs in one basket and it goes wrong then its addios.
We need a team that is good to watch as well as moving forward to a new ground
the reality is more what DTG, Pavilionaire and Stinky Kat are saying. If players are going to flood out I reckon it will be after season ticket renewals in February. Whilst it's lovely for the club to have the yorkies of this world but they aren't going to keep the club alive on their own.
If we go down and lose players you will see the lowest attendances so far at Withdean next season and the problem will just get worse.
If we go down and lose players you will see the lowest attendances so far at Withdean next season and the problem will just get worse.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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CrabtreeBHA said:
If you booked tickets for Oasis 4 nights in a row and they gave 3 great concerts but didn't turn up on the 4th night would you be so philosophical?
Football is many things, and one of them is entertainment. There are many things you can do with your Saturday that compete with football. If the club are seen to be waving the white flag on the field then pretty soon only the die-hard fans will remain.
Kev the Ape
New member
*prays* please be a rumour. 
Pavilionaire said:
if I booked 1 Oasis ticket I'd shoot myself...but thats not the point!
I do see where you are coming from, but theres a massive over exageration on NSC recently about us throwing it all away and fielding the youth team! We have the players to stay up currently, loosing Cullip wont be the end of the season, the loss of Currie is'nt. We all knew this season was gonna be hard anyway and that we are playing against a brickwall financially, who knows what the books are like currently (hell I want answers from DK as much as Ernest! ) but we have to deal with it right now.
Its not all down to selling the best players either, I'm starting to question McGhees choice in team selection alot more than I was earlier on in the season.
larus
Well-known member
What's that saying, something like
"It's always the blackest before dawn!".
OK, things look bleak, and maybe I'm in the Yorkie mould in that I'm a positive person, but look where we are now, and from where we have come from in 7 years.
Yes, it's not great if the financial position of the club is really this bad, but we're being bled dry by the Falmer inquiry, the length of which is totally beyond the control of DK/MP.
If we do lose DC as well, then sobeit. At least this is the one position where we have strength in depth, and DC, IMO, is unproven at this level. If we can get 1/4 mil for him, then it's time to cash in and wish him good luck for the future.
It's time to keep trust with DK. He's not out to fleece the club, there's nothing there. I believe that he is working hard to ensure that we are in as sound a position as we can be, and when we get the Yes for Falmer, the sun will rise and everything will appear better.
We've gone through the night, the dark time, the treachery and we're near the end. Now, my friends, is the time to keep our nerve. We're so close we can almost touch it. There will be set-backs, I'm sure, maybe even relegation, but the future is going to be so much better than the recent past.
What we need to do is to speak to friends/colleagues and try to persuade them to get tickets to ensure that we sell out week-in, week-out.
Also, we need to lift the team at Withdean. If the slagging off from the crowd is having a negative effect, then let it stop, and let the people doing it know that it's not acceptable. The players know when they've messed up, some loud-mouthed wanna-be comedian shouting abuse is not going to help.
Here's to the future
"It's always the blackest before dawn!".
OK, things look bleak, and maybe I'm in the Yorkie mould in that I'm a positive person, but look where we are now, and from where we have come from in 7 years.
Yes, it's not great if the financial position of the club is really this bad, but we're being bled dry by the Falmer inquiry, the length of which is totally beyond the control of DK/MP.
If we do lose DC as well, then sobeit. At least this is the one position where we have strength in depth, and DC, IMO, is unproven at this level. If we can get 1/4 mil for him, then it's time to cash in and wish him good luck for the future.
It's time to keep trust with DK. He's not out to fleece the club, there's nothing there. I believe that he is working hard to ensure that we are in as sound a position as we can be, and when we get the Yes for Falmer, the sun will rise and everything will appear better.
We've gone through the night, the dark time, the treachery and we're near the end. Now, my friends, is the time to keep our nerve. We're so close we can almost touch it. There will be set-backs, I'm sure, maybe even relegation, but the future is going to be so much better than the recent past.
What we need to do is to speak to friends/colleagues and try to persuade them to get tickets to ensure that we sell out week-in, week-out.
Also, we need to lift the team at Withdean. If the slagging off from the crowd is having a negative effect, then let it stop, and let the people doing it know that it's not acceptable. The players know when they've messed up, some loud-mouthed wanna-be comedian shouting abuse is not going to help.
Here's to the future
Brighton till i die
You havin' a bubble?
f*** SAKE!
we got f***ing promoted last year after a quality season - worst case = we get relegated - we would still be in league 1 anyway as last year was a bloodyt miracle - at least we are playing big teams, and making a name for ourselves.
Beaten west ham, forest, leicester in their own backyards - f***ing lighten up everyone.
we are holding our own this season, and i hope DC doesn't go, but if he does we'll all have to f***ing move on, as we did when Bobby, Brooker, Currie, Sidwell, etc left!!
We will stay up by the skin of our teeth this season i reckon, then with a bnit of stability, and the stadium go-ahead, it will be "happy days" !!
chiiiiil
we got f***ing promoted last year after a quality season - worst case = we get relegated - we would still be in league 1 anyway as last year was a bloodyt miracle - at least we are playing big teams, and making a name for ourselves.
Beaten west ham, forest, leicester in their own backyards - f***ing lighten up everyone.
we are holding our own this season, and i hope DC doesn't go, but if he does we'll all have to f***ing move on, as we did when Bobby, Brooker, Currie, Sidwell, etc left!!
We will stay up by the skin of our teeth this season i reckon, then with a bnit of stability, and the stadium go-ahead, it will be "happy days" !!
chiiiiil
Uncle Buck
Ghost Writer
- Jul 7, 2003
- 28,075
larus said:
I agree that we need to be pulling in the same direction and until the stadium is sorted the club is always going to be in limbo. However surely the lessons of why we are in this mess show that we should be asking questions of what the board is doing and to an extent scrutinising them. At the end of the day if this had been done in 1993 when Foray 585(??) was set up, we might still have our main assett, the Goldstone Ground.
ManOnTheRun
Active member
dave the gaffer said:
Dave, thats twice in a matter of days that I've agreed with you. Amazing..
Like you I just want to stay in this division, it just makes my £500 quid season ticket money seem so much better value. I love opening my paper on a Sunday and seeing a report of the game, rather than 1 line on page 90, after a report on the World Croquet Championships. I want to enter the FA Cup at the third round. I like watching the Albion in crowds of 25k rather than 5k. I want to see players like Paul Ince, Teddy Sheringham and Dennis Wise at the Withdean. It's great being able to tell the plastic Man U/Arsenal/Chelsea fans in the office that 'we beat West Ham' on Saturday, rather than saying we got a 1-1 draw with Colchester and getting the standard 'Oh, I didn't know Colchester had a league team'response.
I know deep down that I am lucky to have a club but I just can't help but feel disappointed.
Until now I have backed the current board, without question, with my money, support and energy. This is the first point at which I have started to feel disillusioned
silky1
New member
Zeitgeist said:
I with Zeitgeist on this one. Both two years ago and this season I think Cullip has struggled to be the dominant central defender he clearly is in the lower two divisions. We must get a decent sum of money if selling to a club in the same division, but I say we have the cover, and we have to replace him sooner or later.
Bring on the youth!
Fran Hagarty
Well-known member
larus said:What's that saying, something like
"It's always the blackest before dawn!".
OK, things look bleak, and maybe I'm in the Yorkie mould in that I'm a positive person, but look where we are now, and from where we have come from in 7 years.
Yes, it's not great if the financial position of the club is really this bad, but we're being bled dry by the Falmer inquiry, the length of which is totally beyond the control of DK/MP.
If we do lose DC as well, then sobeit. At least this is the one position where we have strength in depth, and DC, IMO, is unproven at this level. If we can get 1/4 mil for him, then it's time to cash in and wish him good luck for the future.
It's time to keep trust with DK. He's not out to fleece the club, there's nothing there. I believe that he is working hard to ensure that we are in as sound a position as we can be, and when we get the Yes for Falmer, the sun will rise and everything will appear better.
We've gone through the night, the dark time, the treachery and we're near the end. Now, my friends, is the time to keep our nerve. We're so close we can almost touch it. There will be set-backs, I'm sure, maybe even relegation, but the future is going to be so much better than the recent past.
What we need to do is to speak to friends/colleagues and try to persuade them to get tickets to ensure that we sell out week-in, week-out.
Also, we need to lift the team at Withdean. If the slagging off from the crowd is having a negative effect, then let it stop, and let the people doing it know that it's not acceptable. The players know when they've messed up, some loud-mouthed wanna-be comedian shouting abuse is not going to help.
Here's to the future
Well said. The voice of reason!
Mr Popkins
New member
I suggested selling all our good players when the club starting sending out begging letters!.
I think im in the minority here and actually think DK is doing the right thing,
FACT
it will be cheaper if we are relegated, even if we only get 5000 at withdean next season, surely it will still be cheaper.
What we do need is Dick knight to come out and tell us exactly how much sh1t we are in!!!!
I think im in the minority here and actually think DK is doing the right thing,
FACT
it will be cheaper if we are relegated, even if we only get 5000 at withdean next season, surely it will still be cheaper.
What we do need is Dick knight to come out and tell us exactly how much sh1t we are in!!!!
If we sell all our good players and we are relegated I would bet the average crowd would be more like 3500 - 4000.
It would be interesting to know what the pre and post play off final season ticket sales were last season as this would be a good guide on what the renewals will be.
It would be interesting to know what the pre and post play off final season ticket sales were last season as this would be a good guide on what the renewals will be.