[Football] Crystal Palace appoint Patrick Vieira as their new manager

[RexCathedra]

Do great players generally go onto make great managers all that often?

Pep, certainly, Mancini, possibly.

I’m struggling after these two in the current crop of top class managers. Steven Gerrard may prove to be great, but it’s a bit soon to know yet.
In the past, not many English great players have made it as agreat manager, Moore , Bobby Charlton, Styles, all pretty abject failures on the manager front.

Most great managers were pretty average, or worse , players.

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[Dick Head]

 

[Hugo Rune]

This sort of stuff is exactly what we want in a Palace manager:

“Some of the criticisms of his time at Nice included a lack of creativity, issues with recruitment and failure to find his best team and stick to it. There were reports he had lost the dressing room and the fans had turned against him too.” BBC

I’m hoping he lasts more than half a dozen games because if not, they’ll get Big Sam in who’d be more than likely to keep them up. ‘Palace Pat’ would need more than half the season to terminally damage their survival chances, I just hope he is given enough time to lose the dressing etc.

 

[jackanada]

This is all clearly too good to be true.

Paddy will have an immediate and unexplainable chemistry and forever be known as Paddy of the Palace.
Prince Charmings band of merry investors turn out to have been cunningly keeping their powder dry and have funds to buy any french player not at PSG.

Sainsburys aware of a brewing scandal in their midst get sportwashing really wrong vacating their supermarket and covering a big chunk of redevelopment costs in return for naming rights and a permanent executive box fitted with one way mirrored glass. This decision may be due to some execs predilection for a small mountain of coke and a bevy of black clad rent boys.

 

[Taybha]

Good luck Patrick , learning curves are fantastic character builders , well 10% of that is true .

 

[BadFish]

Nuno / Favre and Viera as a 3 way management sounds brilliant to me. I’ve not seen the usual bellends here since Nuno was about to be announced… and Favre … they’ve not turned out for big Pat USA leagues finest…

This thread is only missing some delusional Palace fans trying to convince us (and themselves) that all is well at their club.

Exciting times.

 

[b.w.2.]

If he turns out to be just half the manager that he was a player, then he will be a great success.

Patrick Viera, one of the best box to box midcfield players that has ever graced the Premier League.

… which has no relation whatsoever as to whether he is a good manager. Never understand why allegedly intelligent board members assume great player equals great manager, repeatedly in error.


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[FloatLeft]

Every time the conversation turns to ‘do you want Palace relegated?’ I say ‘No’ because it’s always a good day out.

But I’ve had enough of that, it’s time for relegation. Thanks Paddy V!

 

[Stato]

Every time the conversation turns to ‘do you want Palace relegated?’ I say ‘No’ because it’s always a good day out.

But I’ve had enough of that, it’s time for relegation. Thanks Paddy V!

Is the 'V' a roman numeral, for him being their 5th choice?

 

[Medwayseagull]

Is the 'V' a roman numeral, for him being their 5th choice?

It can't be, otherwise it would be XXXV.

 

[Biscuit]

Just stuck a tenner each on Saints and Palace for the drop. One of them are gone this year imo.

 

[rippleman]

If he turns out to be just half the manager that he was a player, then he will be a great success.

Patrick Viera, one of the best box to box midcfield players that has ever graced the Premier League.

Not sure that necessarily follows. Great players do not necessarily good managers make. Bobby Charlton and Bobby Moore, two of the greatest English players during my life time were abject failures as managers. One of the best I have seen in blue & white stripes, Mark Lawrenson also had a very short lived managerial career.

Let's hope Viera turns out to be one of those and not a Kenny Dalglish!

 

[jimhigham]

… which has no relation whatsoever as to whether he is a good manager. Never understand why allegedly intelligent board members assume great player equals great manager, repeatedly in error.

Quite. You’d have thought our Hyppia experience would have driven that point home. Great defender. As a manager?

 

[golddene]

Pains me to say it but you all know how this ends, Vieira will be a good manager for them and our hope of them being relegated or at least in a relegation battle will end with us continuing our bottom six battles and them smugly looking on, its always the way so i'm not going to critic them just yet..........


......but if the best happens for us and the worse for them then YES bring it on.........

 

[Klaas]

Feel like this could go tits up for them like it did us and SH. Problem with Palace though is they don't waste time getting in a relegation battler specialist and stay up.

That said, who do you turn to these days? Big Sam just blotted his copybook.

 

[Easy 10]

Feel like this could go tits up for them like it did us and SH. Problem with Palace though is they don't waste time getting in a relegation battler specialist and stay up.

That said, who do you turn to these days? Big Sam just blotted his copybook.

Their squad is in a complete shambles, and they've appointed a rookie manager who has achieved nothing of any note. He wasn't even on their radar when they belatedly embarked on their managerial search (or quest, as it turned out).

However, as a club they have SNIDE in their DNA. Didn't they lose 7 in a row from the start of one season without even scoring - and yet they still stayed up and finished above us ?

They are surely sailing very close to the R this season though. Surely.

 

[eaglesdan]

Lots of in the knows here who seem to believe PV was a long way down the list of choices for manager. Who knows who was offered the job and how much was paper talk? I certainly dont. All the talk of the number of players out of contract is also misleading, as many of those are not first team regulars, or have been regularly injured. Its certainly going to be an interesting season, as the players adapt to a new manager, but I hope PV gets a fair chance before the whingers and moaners start looking for his head. Who knows, BHA may well finish above us this year, but for now, I will take finishing out of the bottom 3. COYP

 

[jcdenton08]

Their squad is in a complete shambles, and they've appointed a rookie manager who has achieved nothing of any note. He wasn't even on their radar when they belatedly embarked on their managerial search (or quest, as it turned out).

However, as a club they have SNIDE in their DNA. Didn't they lose 7 in a row from the start of one season without even scoring - and yet they still stayed up and finished above us ?

They are surely sailing very close to the R this season though. Surely.

I'm sure their fans would argue that shows an excellent fighting spirit.

 

[Easy 10]

Lots of in the knows here who seem to believe PV was a long way down the list of choices for manager. Who knows who was offered the job and how much was paper talk? I certainly dont. All the talk of the number of players out of contract is also misleading, as many of those are not first team regulars, or have been regularly injured. Its certainly going to be an interesting season, as the players adapt to a new manager, but I hope PV gets a fair chance before the whingers and moaners start looking for his head. Who knows, BHA may well finish above us this year, but for now, I will take finishing out of the bottom 3. COYP

If they were ever seriously considering him a while back, wouldn't they have been looking into sorting out his work permit before...

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...last week ?

As for the players, a clearout was probably long overdue but you are still losing a LOT of PL experience that will need replacing, and all in 1 window. It will be interesting to see how far the owners go in backing PV over the next couple of months. A complete overhaul is required, and that don't come cheap.

 

[Easy 10]

I'm sure their fans would argue that shows an excellent fighting spirit.

I'm sure they would too. But from top to bottom, they are snides. This is fact.