Croydon in flames

[Twinkle Toes]

I know someone who is in 'Red Team' (or another similar colour based code team name..) for Brighton council, and they are surprised that London is struggling, as all Cities have teams trained to deal with mass disorder.

Clearly the number of sporadic breakouts have caught London, but they are confident Brighton is 'ready and waiting' if it happens.

Thanks for that sliver of positivity on this thoroughly depressing evening. Let's hope things remain peaceful down here.

 

[Bozza]

Interesting first paragraph here

Theresa May: We can cut police budget without risking violent unrest | UK news | guardian.co.uk

I think not Theresa!

It's very amusing, I'm sure but, again I ask for the facts.

How many police were there, how many are there now.

And, regardless, if there 5 times as many - would it have made any difference?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Debenhams on fire in Clapham Junction? That would be utter carnage.

 

[Falkor]

It's very amusing, I'm sure but, again I ask for the facts.

How many police were there, how many are there now.

And, regardless, if there 5 times as many - would it have made any difference?

i dont believe they have been cut yet Bozza

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

How many jobs will be lossed because of this? Not to be glib but if youre a shop fitter I guess you are laughing!

 

[Bwian]

Not at all. But the Labour administration in 1997 was not faced with a situation where one in every four pounds the government spent was borrowed from volatile markets largely bankrolled by an increasingly assertive China hiking interest rates in those markets to the extent that entire countries are going down the toilet.

In any event, the point is this. You cannot hold one government, of any political persuasion, responsible for this rioting.

Which was exactly my point

 

[clarkey]

I think it is a lot worse than what they're saying on the news, that map is horrific

24 hour news channels, like the police, just cant keep up. Ealing, Camden etc barely mentioned at the moment. Croydon wasnt recognised by them as in trouble for a long time after it broke out.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Debenhams on fire in Clapham Junction? That would be utter carnage.

The 3 storey building opposite

 

[pauldcpfc]

I think it is a lot worse than what they're saying on the news, that map is horrific

There is a lot of stuff not being reported.

Purley Way has been destroyed and there are still no Police up there.

PC World/Argos/Ikea/Currys/Comet all looted and smashed to shit. Sainsburys looted.

Rumours that Cosmo (Restaurant) and Ikea are on fire as well.

 

[Ernest]

24 hour news channels, like the police, just cant keep up. Ealing, Camden etc barely mentioned at the moment. Croydon wasnt recognised by them as in trouble for a long time after it broke out.

Mate of mine in Streatham said it kicked off in Croydon hours ago, long before it came on TV. So much going on in London now they don't know where to put the cameras

 

[Bozza]

Sky News now with residents who have had people come into their houses. First reports I've heard of this moving from business to residential properties.

 

[Ernest]

Sky News now with residents who have had people come into their houses. First reports I've heard of this moving from business to residential properties.

Not surprised as these scum are out of control so where does it end and when are the police going to get a grip ?

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Oh god

 

[Barrel of Fun]

The 3 storey building opposite

No! I hope it doesn't spread to Wessex House.

 

[Bozza]

Not surprised as these scum are out of control so where does it end and when are the police going to get a grip ?

They can't can they? This is unprecedented and there is simply not enough of them.

 

[clarkey]

Sky News now with residents who have had people come into their houses. First reports I've heard of this moving from business to residential properties.

Seemed to be pictures earlier, not sure where perhaps Hackney, of 5/6 people climbing over roofs climbing into houses. Disgusting and thoroughly terrifying.

 

[Washboard Didgets]

There is a lot of stuff not being reported.

Purley Way has been destroyed and there are still no Police up there.

PC World/Argos/Ikea/Currys/Comet all looted and smashed to shit. Sainsburys looted.

Rumours that Cosmo (Restaurant) and Ikea are on fire as well.

Really?... That really would be crazy if true...

 

[clarkey]

Mate of mine in Streatham said it kicked off in Croydon hours ago, long before it came on TV. So much going on in London now they don't know where to put the cameras

Whereabouts in Streatham out of interest? Meant to be moving up there in 10 days, seems to have avoided the worst of it so far. Cant see it being too long until targeted though.

 

[Ernest]

They can't can they? This is unprecedented and there is simply not enough of them.

The army should be on the streets now, call a curfew and clear the streets and then shoot the fuckers if they don't go

 

[Twinkle Toes]

the precedents for a defence of self and property are much in their favour, I would expect anything short of continuing to beat them on the ground after they've stopped moving 150 yards away from the shop in question to get off. Also while I have many complaints about my experiences with the police I understand they are very helpful in making sure you're statement in these incidents is worded in a way to minimise the chances of prosecution (decision to prosecute is made by CPS not police)

Well that's encouraging at least. Cheers for that hon.