“Creation”, the new film about Charles Darwin, unable to get distributor in the US

[Lyndhurst 14]

Could be a publicity stunt but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true as the religious right and the ‘creationists’ over here still seem to wield a lot of power over the media. In a recent poll only about 40% of Americans said they believe in evolution which is kinda scary. It will be interesting to see if they now find a distributor after all the publicity. Certainly generated a lot of discussion on the Telegraph board.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controversial-for-religious-America.html

 

[Kukev31]

According to this report, the stats aren't much better in this country, with only 50% believing in Evolution.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/feb/01/evolution-darwin-survey-creationism

 

[Don Quixote]

We have loads of Muslims and they are all nuts so they don't believe in it. But who cares?! It doesn't make a difference if you believe or don't believe in the end.

 

[Insel affe]

Could be a publicity stunt but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true as the religious right and the ‘creationists’ over here still seem to wield a lot of power over the media. In a recent poll only about 40% of Americans said they believe in evolution which is kinda scary. It will be interesting to see if they now find a distributor after all the publicity. Certainly generated a lot of discussion on the Telegraph board.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controversial-for-religious-America.html

It is not a publicity stunt, there are countys within some states where they are NOT allowed to teach or even acknowledge any other idea other than gods 6 day invention of the world. My opinions are my own on this subject, However makes you wonder about the so called land of the Free & Freedom of thought

 

[RexCathedra]

We're the Saudi Arabia of stupid -- 50% of the world's proven reserves. When y'all start running out of dumb, you'll come crying to us...

 

[chez]

According to this report, the stats aren't much better in this country, with only 50% believing in Evolution.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/feb/01/evolution-darwin-survey-creationism

I cant believe as many as half the population believe in evolution. I would have guessed at about 5% to be honest. How can anybody believe that fairy story.

 

[beorhthelm]

I cant believe as many as half the population believe in evolution. I would have guessed at about 5% to be honest. How can anybody believe that fairy story.

what do you hold to be the true account of how we have in to existance then?

 

[chez]

what do you hold to be the true account of how we have in to existance then?

I believe in Adam & Eve, I can see why people wouldn't believe that but I can't for life of me think why anybody could think that we evolved.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I believe in Adam & Eve, I can see why people wouldn't believe that but I can't for life of me think why anybody could think that we evolved.

I am not sure how you can write off evolution, but believe that two people were created. Evolution makes much more sense and there is proof, if you are willing to follow the movement of man and creatures.

 

[Winker]

Before you can have evolution, you must have something that can evolve. The question Darwin didn't answer was where the first life forms came from, they must have been created or arrived via a comet/spaceship etc.

 

[ngood77]

I cant believe as many as half the population believe in evolution. I would have guessed at about 5% to be honest. How can anybody believe that fairy story.

They're still trying to get their knuckles off the ground in the Grenadier.

 

[ngood77]

Before you can have evolution, you must have something that can evolve. The question Darwin didn't answer was where the first life forms came from, they must have been created or arrived via a comet/spaceship etc.

Good wind up.

 

[chez]

I am not sure how you can write off evolution, but believe that two people were created. Evolution makes much more sense and there is proof, if you are willing to follow the movement of man and creatures.

I've read a few books on creation/evolution and evolutuion just doesn't seem feesable (sp?). One question that immediately springs to mind is why did it stop with us, why aren't we still evolving?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I've read a few books on creation/evolution and evolutuion just doesn't seem feesable (sp?). One question that immediately springs to mind is why did it stop with us, why aren't we still evolving?

We asre, aren't we? Evolution takes thousands of years and a long time for a noticeable change. We have undoubtedly altered over the last few centuries.

 

[Acker79]

I've read a few books on creation/evolution and evolutuion just doesn't seem feesable (sp?). One question that immediately springs to mind is why did it stop with us, why aren't we still evolving?

Evolution, as Darwin presents it, is driven by forces that impact on you early in life. What is often boiled down to (and erroneously credited to darwin) "Survival of the fittest" is actually "survival to reproductive age of the best suited to the environment".

For example, horses with longer necks could reach higher branches, so were less likely to die of starvation before having kids when the lower branches were empty. Then, the longer the neck, the higher up the tree you could reach, the less likely you are to starve, thus you lived longer if you had a longer neck, and if you lived longer you were more likely to mate.

Over several generations this species of horse evolves into a giraffe.


Think of humans; what force is out there killing humans before they get a chance to mate? Society is so advanced that modern medicine can deal with most diseases and illness. Polio was wiped out. Without this force on humans, our evolution has slowed right down.

 

[theonesmith]

Evolution, as Darwin presents it, is driven by forces that impact on you early in life. What is often boiled down to (and erroneously credited to darwin) "Survival of the fittest" is actually "survival to reproductive age of the best suited to the environment".

For example, horses with longer necks could reach higher branches, so were less likely to die of starvation before having kids when the lower branches were empty. Then, the longer the neck, the higher up the tree you could reach, the less likely you are to starve, thus you lived longer if you had a longer neck, and if you lived longer you were more likely to mate.

Over several generations this species of horse evolves into a giraffe.


Think of humans; what force is out there killing humans before they get a chance to mate? Society is so advanced that modern medicine can deal with most diseases and illness. Polio was wiped out. Without this force on humans, our evolution has slowed right down.

Nail. Head. Bang on.

 

[Gully]

We asre, aren't we? Evolution takes thousands of years and a long time for a noticeable change. We have undoubtedly altered over the last few centuries.

That is undoubtedly the case, due to changes in diet and medicine over the past century or so we are now living longer, are taller and in many cases heavier than three or four generations back. If you want to go back further it is easy to trace the development of Homo Sapiens all the way from Neanderthal man to Homo Erectus...etc, etc...I just wonder what we will evolve into, if we don't just become extinct first.

 

[beorhthelm]

I believe in Adam & Eve, I can see why people wouldn't believe that but I can't for life of me think why anybody could think that we evolved.

really? i was hoping for somthing more original than that old story.

Before you can have evolution, you must have something that can evolve. The question Darwin didn't answer was where the first life forms came from, they must have been created or arrived via a comet/spaceship etc.

i dont think Darwin himself attempted to answer that, he provided the framwork of how we get change in the natural world. i dont go with comet stuff, it just defers the problem. the first life would probably have come from a chance fusion of chemicals to create self replicating molecule. the really tricky question is which came first the protein or the DNA?

I've read a few books on creation/evolution and evolutuion just doesn't seem feesable (sp?). One question that immediately springs to mind is why did it stop with us, why aren't we still evolving?

as said we are still evolving. read the books again. the underlying concept that living organisms change is a undeniable fact. the fuss over bird flu is all about one strain of flu evolving into another new variety. does God instruct it or does nature is one way of looking at it, shame the relgious dont even have the foresight to try and claim evolution as the act of an omnipotent deity (but pretty nasty one, maybe why). bit of an irony in there, evolution doesnt actually exclude the possiblity of a God at some level, it just means the literal biblical story of creation is bollocks. but we know that anyway, why do people cling on to it?

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

'Coz it helps them deal with a) their own mortality and b) our own enormous ignorance, boerthelm. Can't come up with nice tidy answers for everything? Simply make something up which explains all those pesky unknowns away, invest complete and blind faith in that, and stop worrying about it...

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

The ignorance of the creationists is staggering. They insist the earth is only about 6,000 years old when scientific measurement and calculations show it to be about 4.5 billion years old with some scientists thinking it is even older. Having to put up with all the religious cobblers which is constantly on TV or in the papers is one of the downsides about living in the US. The other day a guy in the Bronx won the New York mega lottery - 150 million dollars. Fair play to him - he then starts wittering on about it being part of god’s plan - right, so he’ll donate the bulk of it to charity. No he won’t - he’ll blow it on fancy women, fancy houses and fancy cars like any self respecting lottery winner would !