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Crawley again, how did this happen ?









Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,269
Unbelievable. I certainly believe the outgoing Board should have done some checks on the new owners, it's not hard or expensive to obtain information from Companies House and credit agencies.
 








Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
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Well thats Dick Knight reduced to five minutes on the phone in then as Crawley fans must ring up to discuss this important development. All we need now is the Aldershot Mascot Dog to die and he wont get on at all
 


Tony Meolas Loan Spell

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Jul 15, 2004
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Just think they probably wouldnt be in financial poo poo if the Crawley council let us share with them instead of Gillingham.
 


sully

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Jul 7, 2003
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Worthing
Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
Just think they probably wouldnt be in financial poo poo if the Crawley council let us share with them instead of Gillingham.

The ground is owned by the council, so I don't see how us ground sharing would have benefitted the club financially.
 




bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
Just think they probably wouldnt be in financial poo poo if the Crawley council let us share with them instead of Gillingham.

I was soundly (and deservedly) flamed for saying that last week. It was a decision by the council and not CTFC.
 


The Wookiee

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Nov 10, 2003
15,383
Worthing
blockhseagull said:
I didn't think Harty was talking about him ?

Quote from Harty on a Crawley Town Fans Forum

As for the Majeeds, no-one can deny that they are asute businessmen, hence my original statement. As for their current performance clearly things haven't turned out the way they intended but Crawley fans should take heart, no pun intended, and realise they are sticking with it from the fact that they have not upped sticks already.
They thought they could bring their business expertise into the football club and make a go of it, I, like many others connected with the media thought they would do a good job.
At present that isn't the case but who is to say that they are not for the long haul and will turn it round. QPR supporters welcomed Chris Wright with open arms, his track record at Chrysalis Records spoke volumes, yet it didn't work out for him and he allegedly ended up spunking the thick end of £70million.
The Majeeds have clearly done some things wrong, the Alan Mullery saga for one. As much I like the bloke perhaps they were ill advised by someone. But as I stated on this thread earlier, courtesy of Kevin Smith and his PC, John Hollins is a quality manager who I hope will keep Crawley in the Conference.
As for lacking in knowledge of the non-league scene, obviously my 30 odd years supporting Worthing and my last 8 years on the committee at Worthing United count for nothing then...........
It is a game of opinions I have expressed mine, on numerous occasions, if ultimately I am proved to be wrong I will be the first to hold my hands up.

Harty
 


sully

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bhaexpress said:
I was soundly (and deservedly) flamed for saying that last week. It was a decision by the council and not CTFC.

Don't think TMLS was saying it was their fault, just that it could have helped them financially. Which it probably wouldn't have done.

However, having thought furhter on this, I would guess that they would have made money out of the bar and food outlets and maybe would have turned full time under the Dulys, meaning that SAG wouldn't have become involved at all.


So it's all the council's fault!
 






The Wookiee

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blockhseagull said:
Guess we are talking at cross purposes...i was talking about what Harty posted yesterday about possible Albion investors

That came from an interpretation of a comment Harty made on his phone in about how he new of people with millions wanting to invest in Brighton.

It later transpired that Harty knows the Majeeds.

I now understand Harty apparently was refferring to 'other' potential investors!
 


Harty

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So does that mean an apology will be forthcoming, something along the lines of the one I have to make as I made a mistake about the Majeeds?
Lest we all forget Wookie in 1994 David Bellotti recieved a standing ovation at a Gulls Eye Dinner from Messrs Hart, Kennard, Baine, Samrah, Vinicombe, Naylor, Millard and Brady!
 




Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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The Majeeds being where one brother has done a runner and I believe the fuzz want a word.
 
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Before the story disappears from the Argus link:-

Crawley Town FC Chairman is bankrupt
by Rob Hustwayte


The chairman of crisis-hit Crawley Town football club is a bankrupt barred from running businesses, The Argus today reveals.

Chas Majeed, real name Shafqat, 36, was declared insolvent at Brighton County Court in May 2004 and has never been discharged from bankruptcy.

Sussex Police and the Football Association have launched an investigation into our findings about Mr Majeed, which have also been passed on to the Department for Trade and Industry (DTI).

The club could end up being suspended from the league or fined under FA regulations if he is found to be involved in the management of the club.

It is a criminal offence for an undischarged bankrupt to be concerned in "promoting, forming or managing a limited company, or acting as a company director, without the court's permission, whether formally appointed as a director or not."

Mr Majeed has been described by the club as both a director and chairman of Crawley Town since taking over last summer, even though the club is officially owned solely by his brother Azwar, 30.

Our revelations come after the club announced its intention to slash the players' wage bill by half and put the entire squad up for sale, which horrified Crawley Town fans.

Chas Majeed could not be contacted by The Argus yesterday but we confronted Azwar with our findings.

He at first denied Chas, of Goring Road, Worthing, was bankrupt and claimed he had been discharged.

When corrected Azwar said it was irrelevant because his brother was the chairman and not a director of the company.

Chas Majeed is not listed as a director at Companies House. Azwar is listed as the sole director.

After being told that was still against the law if he was involved directly or indirectly in management, Azwar claimed HE was the chairman and that Chas was just an employee, "dealing with the media, doing day to day stuff."

But The Argus has obtained a press release from the Nationwide Conference club's own website in which Chas is referred to as chairman and copies of match-day programmes which list him as a director.

Mr Majeed added: "I can't answer for Chas's personal affairs, but I'm the one who makes the decisions at the football club. He is on the payroll."

FA rules state anyone who has been the subject of a Bankruptcy Order is barred from holding a position of power at a football club.

Directors must pass a test to establish that they are a fit and proper person. If they fail to do so the club could be suspended from the league or fined. That stretches to anyone exercising any control of the club, regardless of whether or not their name is registered under the Companies Act as a director.

An FA spokesman confirmed Azwar Majeed had passed the test but he could not comment on Chas. He said: "The situation about Chas Majeed has been brought to our attention by The Argus and we have begun an investigation. It would be unfair to comment further at this stage."

The news follows revelations in The Argus that Azwar Majeed also had involvement in two companies forced into liquidation.

Trustee in bankruptcy in Mr Majeed's case, Louise Brittain, of Baker Tilly, said she could not discuss the details of how much he owes or to whom.

Crawley insolvency practitioner Malcolm Fillmore, of Atherton Bailey, said: "It is very unusual that a bankruptcy discharge is suspended indefinitely like this.

"It suggests the trustees, whose job it is to shore up his assets on behalf of his creditors, are not getting the information they require from Mr Majeed about his assets.

"I would be very worried if I was a Crawley Town fan about the Majeeds' stewardship and I would be looking as to whether some alternative directorship can be achieved."

The Majeeds paid £547,000 when they bought Crawley Town as a business opportunity from John Duly last year, payable in instalments over a number of years.

The brothers claim to have sunk £800,000 into the club since.

Azwar Majeed says the club has been forced into cutting the wage bill because he was paying 95 per cent of salaries from his own pocket after a number of "silent investors" pulled out because of the team's poor league form.

Mr Duly's son Steve, who was managing director of the club until last November, said: "As far as my father was concerned Azwar was going to be the new owner and director, and it is only in recent months, since we have left the club, that Chas has been described as a director and now the chairman. Azwar passed the FA test and we left it to our accountants to carry out checks on the history."

Gil Roberts, a public relations consultant hired by the Majeeds, said yesterday that, although Chas was the chairman, he exercises no control over the finances of the football club and operates only on the orders of his brother. She was not aware of the law and FA regulations that state it is irrelevant whether or not he is a named director. She said: "Azwar is the sole director. It's him who carries out the decision making."

She could not comment on the fact Chas has been described as a director in the club programme.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,323
Living In a Box
Mulberry Wines was one such business.

Importing Wine in large vehicles via France, think the Customs people want a word as well.
 


It's a disaster for Crawley fans. Who would have thought this kind of crap could happen again so close to our doorstep :nono:
 




The Wookiee

Back From The Dead
Nov 10, 2003
15,383
Worthing
Harty said:
So does that mean an apology will be forthcoming, something along the lines of the one I have to make as I made a mistake about the Majeeds?
Lest we all forget Wookie in 1994 David Bellotti recieved a standing ovation at a Gulls Eye Dinner from Messrs Hart, Kennard, Baine, Samrah, Vinicombe, Naylor, Millard and Brady!

I apologise for my comments, it would appear I added 2 and 2 together and came up with 4.1!

Sorry again Ian!
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Beach Hut said:
Mulberry Wines was one such business.

Importing Wine in large vehicles via France, think the Customs people want a word as well.

GULP, just what i thought :nono:

I actually work with one of the family, who also owns one of the shops.... hes a nice lad, but my opinion of him has gone down ALOT
 


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